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Transfers January 2023 Transfer Thread. The Big One

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you have to consider that it's tottenham, not united or chelsea or city or real madrid.
I think that we did good things in the previous 2 transfer sessions.
the squad is still improvable in many roles and we can't compete for the title right now.
but at the same time we can fight for realistic goals such us to reach again the first 4 positions in EPL, and we can beat milan in champions league.
I'd like a coach 100% focused on what he can achieve
Why have you left the team who are currently 7 points clear at the top out of your list there. You know the one who have backed their manager with exactly the players he wants and fucked off the players he doesn’t, now look at them.

Why could we have not competed for the title this year ? We have a genuine elite manager who’s track record says if you give him the tools he will succeed. The team who are currently top, we came above last season, difference is they went out and made improvements to their first 11 in the summer whilst we got a bunch of back up players.
 
I think we'd look a better coached and a better footballing team under Guardiola. Players improve under him, no doubt about it.

But he wouldn't be given the tools he needs for us to truly compete. He'd get top four every year, no doubt. But he wouldn't be here any longer than 2 years.

So again, unless we were willing to show ambition, its pointless hiring these Mourinho, Conte, Guardiola types because our business model isn't suited to elite managers.
 
I think we'd look a better coached and a better footballing team under Guardiola. Players improve under him, no doubt about it.

But he wouldn't be given the tools he needs for us to truly compete. He'd get top four every year, no doubt. But he wouldn't be here any longer than 2 years.

So again, unless we were willing to show ambition, its pointless hiring these Mourinho, Conte, Guardiola types because our business model isn't suited to elite managers.

No so sure about that. His style of play is very risk taking, pushing right up the pitch, it requires players who are elite on the ball mixed in with specialists in some positions. He struggled with an elite squad when he took over City and that team was good and Bayern were worst under him than the prior manager. He is elite with truly elite players but he would be using a level of players he has never dealt with before while playing a high risk system. I honestly think it would be a disaster:
 
Its quite funny to see so many fall into the ENIC trap and are now squarely blaming the manager, he's short term, sack him now etc.

Everyone fucking knew what type of manager he was, ENIC knew too.

Levy even got Don P. in to deflect more away from him and the board.
 
I think we'd look a better coached and a better footballing team under Guardiola. Players improve under him, no doubt about it.

But he wouldn't be given the tools he needs for us to truly compete. He'd get top four every year, no doubt. But he wouldn't be here any longer than 2 years.

So again, unless we were willing to show ambition, its pointless hiring these Mourinho, Conte, Guardiola types because our business model isn't suited to elite managers.
Pep would be horrendous for this current squad, he scraped top 4 with city in his first season.

Pep is no doubt the best manager in the world given the right tools, but there’s no way his style can work with players that aren’t elite technically of which we have very few.
 
I understand your logic, my hope is that conte can find a compromise and help tottenham to become a top team in 2-3 years working with paratici
Theres as much chance of me being Tottenham manager in 2025 as there is Conte. Even if he signs a contract this stand off and gossip will happen before and during every transfer window. Something will give eventually, quite possibly this month. Its why i'd cut ties now.
 
Why have you left the team who are currently 7 points clear at the top out of your list there. You know the one who have backed their manager with exactly the players he wants and fucked off the players he doesn’t, now look at them.

Why could we have not competed for the title this year ? We have a genuine elite manager who’s track record says if you give him the tools he will succeed. The team who are currently top, we came above last season, difference is they went out and made improvements to their first 11 in the summer whilst we got a bunch of back up players.
we don't have their money
simple
 
Theres as much chance of me being Tottenham manager in 2025 as there is Conte. Even if he signs a contract this stand off and gossip will happen before and during every transfer window. Something will give eventually, quite possibly this month. Its why i'd cut ties now.
He’s not even signing this next contract if they don’t go hard in this transfer window and will be gone before the end of the window when/if that happens.
 
Its quite funny to see so many fall into the ENIC trap and are now squarely blaming the manager, he's short term, sack him now etc.

Everyone fucking knew what type of manager he was, ENIC knew too.

Levy even got Don P. in to deflect more away from him and the board.
Yes but you are forgetting about Alan Sugar , remember the mid nineties. You are not taking into account our snooker table training pitches , the ones that didn’t actually produce Hoddle arguably England’s most gifted player . What about the skywalk , what other club has a view to rival the London Eye?

There is a lot more to being a great club than winning trophies and football matches , it’s a real shame fan ridicule ended the much heralded cheese room
 
No so sure about that. His style of play is very risk taking, pushing right up the pitch, it requires players who are elite on the ball mixed in with specialists in some positions. He struggled with an elite squad when he took over City and that team was good and Bayern were worst under him than the prior manager. He is elite with truly elite players but he would be using a level of players he has never dealt with before while playing a high risk system. I honestly think it would be a disaster:
Pep would be horrendous for this current squad, he scraped top 4 with city in his first season.

Pep is no doubt the best manager in the world given the right tools, but there’s no way his style can work with players that aren’t elite technically of which we have very few.

Sorry, I was talking in general. Not if he was just plopped in as manager now. If he replaced Nuno., was given January and the summer as a window. We'd have seen an improvement in our play most definitely.

Though personally, I think if he was in charge, his team would likely look like this :

Lloris*
Spence - Romero - Lenglet - Perisic*
Bissouma - Hojbjerg - Bentancur
Kulusevski - Kane - Son
He'd have two full backs who are happy to get up and down the field. Ball playing centre backs. He knows and rates Hojbjerg from his Bayern days and in Bissouma and Bentancur he'd have two players very comfortable on the ball and able to press with the best of them.

I think he may actually try something different with Kulusevski and may even try turning him into his own version of de Bruyne. Kane and Son would start because he's Guardiola and we know how much he rates them.

Perisic and Lloris would both be upgraded though eventually as priority due to age and lack of technical ability on Lloris' part. Udogie probably comes in anyway.

Wouldn't win the league with that starting eleven. But we'd see a much improved style of play, a team that looks like it knows what it's doing and some semblance of pressing.

All hypothetical of course. Guardiola would never come to Spurs and we'd never give him the tools he needed to succeed here regardless.
 
There seems to be a bit of a knee jerk reaction to our recent results (not against Levy - that has been a long time coming - but against Conte). Neither Brentford (who beat Man U, Man C and Liverpool) and Villa (who just effectively had a month of pre-season with a new manager and almost an entire squad not at the WC) were easy opponents. We saw dramatic improvement last season after the January window when Conte got to spend time on the training pitch with the players. We had out best ever start to a league season in my lifetime this season (and I am 50!). We have had the disruption of the WC this season (we had a lot of players out there 11). and also had injuries to key players in Kulusevski, Romero, Richarlison, and Bentancur. We do still need 4 or 5 more players (which Conte and Paratici said all along would not happen in the first 1 or 2 windows). Get Conte a RWB and another AM/WF this window, and 2 top CBs in the summer, and we'll be ready to compete. The key is whether the club are prepared to back Conte significantly in the transfer market both now and in the summer. Conte can still be a big success, but we need Levy to step aside or step up.
 
So the 10th richest club in world football can’t compete financially with Woolwich who haven’t been in the champions league for 7 years and don’t have oil money. What was all that shit about making champions league and having a new stadium would allow us to compete ?
I've thought for a while that the Arteta project has been a gamble, they've staked money they didn't have as a risk to compete. What hurts is that it seems to now be working.
 
They did but they've changed and have had a plan for 2 or 3 years. Pay off the ageing wasters, invest in young techinally good players and back the coach all the way. We have no plan, throw coaches under the bus at the first hint of an issue and half heartedly back them at best.
I disagree, our plan started with paratici and conte. 1 year ago
we added bentancur kulu richarlison bissouma perisic romero (udogie)
3 years ago Woolwich was a mess.
let's wait 2 years before judging this new cycle
 
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