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Manager Antonio Conte

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I think that was just a hot streak where the stars aligned for us as a team and we were scoring the half chances regularly but yeah ... it was unfortunate and killed all his momentum. As a backup RWB he's not awful as he understands the role well, its just he lacks the tools to hurt teams.

Just a hot streak? Possibly....... He defo has more about him than we saw under Jose though(*).

(*and Nuno; who had him looking like one of our worst ever players!)

Emerson out & Doherty + Porro would be a big upgrade to our options.

As you may recall I went into last summer saying:

NEW BLOKE + Doh
or
NEW BLOKE + Spence.

...See you next summer. :contesideeye:
 
Just a hot streak? Possibly....... He defo has more about him than we saw under Jose though(*).

(*and Nuno; who had him looking like one of our worst ever players!)



As you may recall I went into last summer saying:

NEW BLOKE + Doh
or
NEW BLOKE + Spence.

...See you next summer. :contesideeye:

He was scoring or assisting pretty much every game for a bit. We had a good handful of players achieving well above their usual level so yeah, I think it was form/momentum and he'd naturally have reverted when that wore off, but agree he's better than he showed under Jose/Nuno. Helps he's actually played in his preferred role.

I forget Spence exists quite regularly. Him + Porro would be reasonable but you'd think any manager would want a more experienced option there. No idea what any new coach might think of Spence as I think under Conte he's permanently banished.
 
Why is he going on about his that shit? How is levy , patrici or medical dept gonna answer why we have played like thirds in every fiery half this season. Why haven’t scored a goal in the first half fir 14 ganes? Why we have let in 2/2+ goals in nearly all the last 10 games?
His a great deflector and BS excuses.
Also why hasn’t he coached the team to pass and move, close down, press and basically defend a lot better?
Not quite true. We did score against Leeds in the first half 6 games ago. Even so we have scored once in the first half in the last 14 games in all competitions. It is truly shocking
 
Not quite true. We did score against Leeds in the first half 6 games ago. Even so we have scored once in the first half in the last 14 games in all competitions. It is truly shocking

My god, I didn't know it was that bad.

That's on the coach. I have a lot of sympathy for the conditions Conte works under but that's inexcusable even if he had a team on Bournemouth's level. If a squad of players for that length of time just don't turn up in a first half, the manager has to be questioned.
 
He was scoring or assisting pretty much every game for a bit. We had a good handful of players achieving well above their usual level so yeah, I think it was form/momentum and he'd naturally have reverted when that wore off, but agree he's better than he showed under Jose/Nuno. Helps he's actually played in his preferred role.

I forget Spence exists quite regularly. Him + Porro would be reasonable but you'd think any manager would want a more experienced option there. No idea what any new coach might think of Spence as I think under Conte he's permanently banished.

If he's not even gonna consider him for 'B-fixtures' then the club (i.e. our DOF) should insist that Conte sends him out on loan.

Pisses me off when we starve young players of gametime.
 
My god, I didn't know it was that bad.

That's on the coach. I have a lot of sympathy for the conditions Conte works under but that's inexcusable even if he had a team on Bournemouth's level. If a squad of players for that length of time just don't turn up in a first half, the manager has to be questioned.
A squad of players that contains two golden boot winners......

Wiggy wants the sack.

Tight arse can't afford to pay two managers and / or can't get away with Mason until the end of the season without serious repercussions for himself.

3-4-3 Limbo.
 
Agreed with you again. Shit.

But will say, if Conte goes from the Best manager we have seen to the defeated version of himself we are seeing in interviews and at times on the sideline, that’s a club culture thing not a Conte thing.

Whatever happens with him, the primary responsibility needs to be taken by those above him.
Hold he dies this everywhere he goes. He did at chavs where basically even after the club soent money he comes out as the “poor little lamb”. As if his been hard done by almost jilted and making everyone think his innocent. Don’t fall for that BS. He has previous.
 
If he's not even gonna consider him for 'B-fixtures' then the club (i.e. our DOF) should insist that Conte sends him out on loan.

Pisses me off when we starve young players of gametime.

Yeah I think its clear that from the flashes we've seen from Gil when he actually got a couple of games with reasonable time that he's a talent, just not one we've nurtured at all. I worry Sarr will be banished again when players come back from injury, too.

I don't expect these players to start every game but time in the cups, more use off the bench, starting the odd game when fatigue/poor form sets in, absolutely..
 
My god, I didn't know it was that bad.

That's on the coach. I have a lot of sympathy for the conditions Conte works under but that's inexcusable even if he had a team on Bournemouth's level. If a squad of players for that length of time just don't turn up in a first half, the manager has to be questioned.
And it's plain as day to see the additional license to make line-splitting runs that breaks us out of those funks every time.

This team is dogshit at creating chances from non-transition possession situations against a defense that has gotten back into position. Which isn't really surprising at all given that our midfielders are neither elite lock-picking passers nor major shooting threats. That's not designed to be the team's strength.

But when we start interchanging positions in the attacking phase, all of a sudden defenders are forced into hard choices and spaces open up.

But it's massively frustrating to watch us struggle to cycle the ball in stationary positions in the attacking third, we are consistently more of a threat to our own net than the opponents in that situation.
 
Yeah I think its clear that from the flashes we've seen from Gil when he actually got a couple of games with reasonable time that he's a talent, just not one we've nurtured at all. I worry Sarr will be banished again when players come back from injury, too.

I don't expect these players to start every game but time in the cups, more use off the bench, starting the odd game when fatigue/poor form sets in, absolutely..

Even if it's no concern to Conte; it's up to Fab to realise that there is life after Conte even if he is still here in August...... All part of his job.

Good thing about Gil and Sarr though is that we've now seen enough to keep faith in them..... If either or gets an EPL loan next season it'll probably do them more good than harm. I think both should stay for now though.
 
Yeah I think its clear that from the flashes we've seen from Gil when he actually got a couple of games with reasonable time that he's a talent, just not one we've nurtured at all. I worry Sarr will be banished again when players come back from injury, too.

I don't expect these players to start every game but time in the cups, more use off the bench, starting the odd game when fatigue/poor form sets in, absolutely..

For me Sarr looks good enough to be pushing for a permanent first 11 place, only Bentancur is obviously clear of him in the middle.
 
Hold he dies this everywhere he goes. He did at chavs where basically even after the club soent money he comes out as the “poor little lamb”. As if his been hard done by almost jilted and making everyone think his innocent. Don’t fall for that BS. He has previous.
Has previous of winning too.

Jose won at every club he's managed bar1.

ENIC's Spurs are special. They either have no interest in or no ability to win.
 
Imagine if we had done what we should of done and obvious to any fan with half a brain and we signed a world class right wing back to suit Conte's system and a couple of world class centre halves and a play maker. 4 players that would of made a difference. No chance a manager of Conte's calibre is happy with the like of Royal, Doherty, Sanchez, Dier, Davies and Sessegnon as his options. I don't believe that at all. If we had backed him properly and we were in the same position then I would get where those who are criticising Conte are coming from. Levy has done what Levy does once again and incredibly there are still fans blaming yet another manager in the dug out. When is it eventually going to hit home with some?!
He did t want a play maker. Could have got ericksen for free and he starts every gane fir manure. Apparently he didn’t want Maddison. So you do have to question his thinking. Then comes out says we need a creative player. Exactly where is that player gonna fit in with his system? Doesn’t fucking add up.
 
He did t want a play maker. Could have got ericksen for free and he starts every gane fir manure. Apparently he didn’t want Maddison. So you do have to question his thinking. Then comes out says we need a creative player. Exactly where is that player gonna fit in with his system? Doesn’t fucking add up.
The only thing we have actually heard from Conte himself is that the squad doesn't have creative players and players that can beat their man 1v1.

Everything else was via journalists, so who knows where that information actually came from.
 
By virtue of being world class there's only so many w/class RWBs in the world, so this should be an easy question....... Who? .....Which one?

+ Not one, but 2 w/class CBs too.....?

..............So nothing less than w/class players in every position would allow Conte-ball to function?

Waging a 'who's got the best players'-battle' isn't a tactic, system or game-play strategy.

......We've gone backward to a scary extent in half a season despite improving the squad with some good players.

........."Wah Levy!" is way too 1-dimensional.
Good point there are only so many high players in those positions . And those will already be at top clubs unless you can find / scout some gems. Yet his not interested in that as that too much work for him. Every other team seem to manage. Why have we let in more goals than spam and Everton? Bar codes have let in 11 goals so far. Would you say they have world class defenders. We could have got botman or Bruno g but didn’t go fir them. They seemed to be coached to defend properly put some effort in and actually have some intensity in their play unlike ours. I’d wager howe would prbly get better defensive performances from our players than conte who is renowned for being ultra defensive. Is it his coaching that makes his teams better defensively or the players he has had?
 
He wouldn’t. But he might have some false hope we will make a run.

We’ll be fortunate to get past Milan.

And barring a complete miracle, I don’t see how we can beat anyone good over 2 legs.
Well let’s see conte pull off a tactical master class. Even Jose managed v barca when at inter. Surly these are the ganes where he sets the team up to win over two legs. He has 6 weeks during wc break to plan for ac gane. I’m expecting him to show his worth if his still here however it’s unlikely. As I can’t say that under him his pulled off any tactical master clsss against top teams. May be city but we seem to do that under most managers even Nuno.
 
Not quite true. We did score against Leeds in the first half 6 games ago. Even so we have scored once in the first half in the last 14 games in all competitions. It is truly shocking
Stand corrected although we did let in more than 2 goals and were behind 3 times but that’s all been said. Still absolutely dreadful for a manager of his so called calibre to over sea that shitness.
 
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