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Manager Antonio Conte

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How can he be considered elite when he can’t manage more than one game a week. Even that one game his “coaching” doesn’t exactly blow the opposition away. Ancelotti is far better manager and has won far more trophies and plays bettter football. Surprises me when people refer to elite managers his not often mentioned?
If Mourinho didnt have a breakdown his last season at Chelsea and they qualified for european football, we would've won the title in 16/17. Conte does not win the league that season playing twice a week.
 
It's been painfully obvious from very early in the season that we are playing too many shit defenders and we needed to take one out and add another midfielder as we're far too easy to play against in the middle of the park. Crazy that some thought we needed to play a back 5 because our defenders are shit when clearly we need less of them on the pitch because they are an absolute fucking liability. Conte has not been what I expected him to be and does not warrant the money being paid for him. The amount of times we've been getting beat comfortably only to see him make subs too late in the game that are usually more defenders and keeping the back 5 is absolutely unfathomable and lunacy. He looks beaten and ready to go and I think the teams performances are reflecting this and as such I think he should leave with immediate effect in the hopes we can rescue something from this season.
Couldn’t agree more, his approach definition of insanity
 
Ultimately that's what having Porro and Perisic on the flanks is all about.

The tactics fell to pieces today, but that's the path forward.
For conte it is but we never get them the ball high enough to be of any danger. We are so low that we have 5 players or 7 sometimes on out 18 yard line. What we need is to learn to play football again with ericksen type player. That player being Maddison and build the team around him with back 4. This BS about creativity coming from wing backs is going nowhere. How many great WBs are there plus you need 3 competent CDs. It’s easier to find wide attacking players like most teams have with a play maker behind. Ffs how many teams in history sacrificed all possesion and creativity to let WBs be the most important players in the team. Another thing look all the teams who play with a 4 their FBs get just as high as our WBs. What is the difference. Most can get up and down the pitch and have done for decades. What makes WBs so special?
 
He needs to go.

It’s not going to work. I’m genuinely stumped as to why he is so remorselessly inflexible. Culturally, we don’t fit.

That said, if Levy hires Rodgers I’ll pack up and go non-league.

Maybe Conte was clear on his system and tactics and expects the club to provide the players to suit it. Paratici would be onboard with that aswell.
We have issues in the CB, WB, Keeper and MF positions. Richarlison cost a lot of money but what has he provided ? Kulu is up and down. Has Conte been backed in real terms, not money....quality.
 
Poch times were simply beautiful. Never worried what he’s gonna say on press conference or worried about him getting sacked. With Mourinho and Conte every week there is something. I’m sick of it. If we actually played good football or just were winning I wouldn’t have a problem.

The only thing I would want Conte after the summer is because of Kane. I don’t think he stays if Conte goes.
 
Conte isn’t free of blame, he’s stubborn and continues to play players that are out of form and blindly sticks to a formation even when it’s obvious it isn’t working

But to expect a squad to challenge for stuff when the centre back options are

Romero
Dier
Davies
Sanchez
Tanganga
Lenglet

Is criminal

I’ll be honest I don’t even think Romero is good enough. Yes he’s aggressive and a cunt but he consistently gets skinned and lets people get shots away by refusing to close down

And the rest are lower mid table level at best

Conte (and us) have been let down by Levy scrimping on the most important part of his favoured tactical plan

‘Want Bastoni, gvardiol or skriniar? Here’s lenglet on loan’
How about dropping PEH in the middle with Romero one side and ANO on the left? Then we could play Sarr/skipp and bent
 
They are though.

If we were in the form we ended last season, who knows where we'd be??

It's another topic but it's pretty clear we are seeing the effects of a mid season world cup on a lot of teams with players that went.

Not an excuse because it's the same for everyone but it's def a factor.
But we were playing crap before the wc. We let in 3 goals at home to Leeds and in the end lucky to win.
 
Thing is your asking him to be something he is not. The idea was you bring him in, spend £400m and get him the players he needs, he wins the title and leaves.

We are treating him like an Eddie Howe project manager. Doesn’t work and that is on us not Conte. Levy thinks he can make Jose and Conte project managers, like asking a sushi chef to make Pizza.
But how much have already spent over 3 windows in charge plus the shite Pat bought in summer 21.
 
Two new CBs, Kane and probably Son on the way out with Richarlison and Kulusevsky poised to be the new focal points of attack, Spence and Udogie coming back ... Midfield combo of bentancur and bissouma finding their feet...the stage is really set for Pochettino to take back the reigns in what would be very familiar circumstances
 
Elite doesn’t mean great. Fergie for me is a far superior manager to Pep or Conte not just because of the vast amount of trophies he won but because he could work with elite and average players. Pep has never once show the ability to work with average and neither has Conte much (Victor Mosses aside).

Modern ‘’elite’’ managers often have only one play style and they try and perfect it. You think Conte is bad watch us with Pep never counter attacking and getting Skipp to play the De Bruyne role with Dier playing out from the back under pressure. In short modern elite managers are specialists.

Our club has no strategy and no elite squad so we are far more suited to a generalist manager or project type manager than an ‘’elite’’ one. Conte is not the problem, hiring Conte without understanding who he is is the problem. Conte will leave us and will win trophies with other clubs who do know how to use him.
really poor when managers cant adapt to what they have available for the time being though isnt it. if it was some bloke in the crowd doing what conte is doing people would call him a fucking idiot. people would say hes trying to force a system and he doesnt have the right players for it he needs to adapt to his players.

who the fuck would play 3 CB's when we only have 1 fucking competent one at the club? its braindead shit! youre putting an extra donkey out there at the expense of losing out on extra players in midfield ( the most important area of the pitch). its never going to work and the performances have shown that. fair enough if you had 3 CB's that are good on the ball and can defend properly but we dont.

any idiot would realise contes braindead system just invites pressure onto an already weak back 3 thats not good enough. its football suicide.
 
Those Poch formation changes gave us the Son LWB moments, the Vorm against Palace disasterclass, the 3-0 against Brighton etc. Love Poch, but the other side of the extreme is just as bad as the stubborness of Conte.
Meh.

At that point, it wasn't about formations and tactics IMO there were issues regarding Poch and the players, there were huge personnel problems namely a midfield that had literally no legs left, a press that had disappeared up front and a back-line so slow it couldn't push high anymore. Basically, there were so many issues all conspiring to impact the performances negatively (similar to what is going on at Liverpool now, although absolutely nowhere near as bad - nothing that some brave calm stewardship that should have been applied. Either sack Poch but replace him with a similar style coach or recognise that you have the best Coach you've ever had and stick with him by working with him to fix the issues that are causing the problems).
 
A lot gets made of managers losing dressing g room’s, well this feels like the dressing room lost its manager. He clearly doesn’t want to be here. It was a money gig while he had fuck all else on.

We look utterly fucking rudderless. No defined style or tactics, players allowed to underperform and get picked week after week. We are atrocious without the ball, clueless with it. Games are a lottery.

We need a complete fucking reboot.

Conte and Paratici out. New recruitment analytics team. New DOF. New head coach. New direction. New identity.
 
Elite doesn’t mean great. Fergie for me is a far superior manager to Pep or Conte not just because of the vast amount of trophies he won but because he could work with elite and average players. Pep has never once show the ability to work with average and neither has Conte much (Victor Mosses aside).

Modern ‘’elite’’ managers often have only one play style and they try and perfect it. You think Conte is bad watch us with Pep never counter attacking and getting Skipp to play the De Bruyne role with Dier playing out from the back under pressure. In short modern elite managers are specialists.

Our club has no strategy and no elite squad so we are far more suited to a generalist manager or project type manager than an ‘’elite’’ one. Conte is not the problem, hiring Conte without understanding who he is is the problem. Conte will leave us and will win trophies with other clubs who do know how to use him.
This argument pep or whoever couldn’t get us to press and play passing football is a bit of BS. How comes some trans get new managers who then get said sane players to play a totally diff brand of football. How do Brighton , wolves and a few other teams actually play decent football with the players they have? Surely we have better players than Brighton. In fact didn’t someone post that Brighton under new manager now create far more chances than under potter. Btw how did potter get Brighton from play shit football under high tin to being able pass and transition the ball from defence to attack. It’s BS a coach will get the players his way regardless of quality. Look at Burnley in half a season how has kompany changed their whole methodology from dyche. They are chalk and cheese.
 
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