Well, do fuck off with your logic. Sound logic at that.
I want to be nostalgic after last night, and I want Poch back. No amount of common sense will convince me otherwise
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Well, do fuck off with your logic. Sound logic at that.
I want to be nostalgic after last night, and I want Poch back. No amount of common sense will convince me otherwise
Him or de Zerbi if we’re going to be weird and dodge Poch
Don’t worry we will be linked with Simone soon.
Tuchel: Short term manager like Conte, mostly pragmatic football or at least was with Chelsea, tactically brilliant but falls out with everyone and gets fired.
Luis Enrique: Pep clone but like Pep and unlike some other Pep clones he needs quality. Spain where a AVB bore fest with him, Barca where great with Messi running the show but we can’t get him the players he truly needs. He would be a decent Man City Pep replacement.
Both of these will likely end up with us in 12-18 month back here again debating the next manager. This is not good these being mentioned in terms of the club learning things.
Luis Enrique: Pep clone but like Pep and unlike some other Pep clones he needs quality. Spain where a AVB bore fest with him, Barca where great with Messi running the show but we can’t get him the players he truly needs. He would be a decent Man City Pep replacement.
Both of these will likely end up with us in 12-18 month back here again debating the next manager. This is not good these being mentioned in terms of the club learning things.
Why do you think that out of interest?
See prior post to yours most likely in my view to repeat the Jose/Conte cycle of many of the options pricked. Ie we will be back here again in 12-18 months.
Tommy Frank had the same treatment in his presser today too.
Yeah sorry realised that after I'd posted.
The only thing I'd say re Enrique is that Spain didn't have a clinical number 9 like we do (at the minute
)they did put 7 past Costa Rica and 6 past Germany without a striker. It might not be as bad as you think.
Prob more hope than anything if it happens
It's outrageous and reminds me of that little weasel Darmesh Sheth trying to get Poch to United in 2018
the disrespect to those clubs is a disgrace.
I don't thinks it's so straight forward that one can assume that all those who downed tools in 2019 are gone now.
Yeah sorry realised that after I'd posted.
The only thing I'd say re Enrique is that Spain didn't have a clinical number 9 like we do (at the minute
they did put 7 past Costa Rica and 6 past Germany without a striker. It might not be as bad as you think.
Prob more hope than anything if it happens
Yeh don’t get me wrong they are elite managers to the same level as our elite manager Conte. But it’s about fitting the club and what we can do. We have to stop pretending we are Chelsea or Man City and have giant wallet.
Agreed and whoever comes in we'll need a complete defensive overhall
we can't keep playing Dier, Davies, Sanchez, Tanganga, Sessegnon etc
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I wouldn't mind him. We've become such an untechnical, rough looking team under the three defensive coaches. Watching us play compared to the likes of City is like walking with gravel in your shoe.
The problem is that he's shown himself to be dogmatic similar to Conte, and his Spain team in particular had the same careless lack of urgency, except with 70% possession.
We'd also have to do a serious rebuild of the squad to add that basic first touch, tippy tappy football ability. Though tbf, a lot of the players that are unsuited to his style are just bad and should be sold regardless.
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I am not going to deny anyone that feeling. If we have to have a new manager tomorrow, he's my only choice. If we can wait until summer, things are different, but only then. And only by the thinnest of margins.Well, do fuck off with your logic. Sound logic at that.
I want to be nostalgic after last night, and I want Poch back. No amount of common sense will convince me otherwise
Of the ones that have been linked today.
Luis Enrique: I think its the most qualified appointment we could make, but I think we'd need to give him so much time. Not sure we he have a single player who fits into his style of football. Maybe Romero andn Kulu that's it, the thought of asking Dier/Hojbjerg/Emerson etc to play patient passing football scares me.
Pochettino: The most risk-free appointment just because the feel good factor would instantly be back. Not sure it's a great idea to go back ordinarily but I'm sure a lot of the players would like it and he's the best manager we've had in my lifetime so the romantic in me wants it.
Tuchel: Hate it. He's fairly pragmatic again and another Chelsea manager, just feels too similar to Conte and also I despised the way he conducted himself during their spat.
De Zerbi: Not a fan in all honesty. Slightly riskier appointment, just think Brighton are run so well and were left in such a good place by Potter its difficult to tell how much of that success is the reminince of his good work. Wouldn't be the worst appointment but I'd be slightly fearful about it.
Postecoglou: Probably too big a job for him at the moment, but obvious reasons I would love it. Think he'd actually suit us very well and it terms of hipster choices he's the best by a landslide - just worry that Kane might go if its not a big name. He's the guy to go for if we want to recreate Poch without actually getting him.
Luis Enrique: I think its the most qualified appointment we could make, but I think we'd need to give him so much time. Not sure we he have a single player who fits into his style of football. Maybe Romero andn Kulu that's it, the thought of asking Dier/Hojbjerg/Emerson etc to play patient passing football scares me.
Pochettino: The most risk-free appointment just because the feel good factor would instantly be back. Not sure it's a great idea to go back ordinarily but I'm sure a lot of the players would like it and he's the best manager we've had in my lifetime so the romantic in me wants it.
Tuchel: Hate it. He's fairly pragmatic again and another Chelsea manager, just feels too similar to Conte and also I despised the way he conducted himself during their spat.
De Zerbi: Not a fan in all honesty. Slightly riskier appointment, just think Brighton are run so well and were left in such a good place by Potter its difficult to tell how much of that success is the reminince of his good work. Wouldn't be the worst appointment but I'd be slightly fearful about it.
Postecoglou: Probably too big a job for him at the moment, but obvious reasons I would love it. Think he'd actually suit us very well and it terms of hipster choices he's the best by a landslide - just worry that Kane might go if its not a big name. He's the guy to go for if we want to recreate Poch without actually getting him.
It has to be a manager on a long term contract, 4-5 years, this is how we’re going to be playing, if the players don’t like it or suit it we sell them.
Can’t be bringing in anymore managers to “convince Kane to stay” or “get son back to his best”. We need these issues resolved by July latest so that we can get to work on rebuilding the squad.
We’ve been kicking the can down the road for 4 years now and we’ve tried to milk every drop we could get from this carcass of a squad. Only way out of this is to move onto a new generation I feel.
Can’t be bringing in anymore managers to “convince Kane to stay” or “get son back to his best”. We need these issues resolved by July latest so that we can get to work on rebuilding the squad.
We’ve been kicking the can down the road for 4 years now and we’ve tried to milk every drop we could get from this carcass of a squad. Only way out of this is to move onto a new generation I feel.
He’d be gone by Christmas. I really believe that.
Look at his managerial history.
He spent 1 season at Roma and 1 season at Celta Vigo. Didn’t pull up any trees and didn’t stay to see out any long term project.
The rest of his career he has managed Barcelona and Spain.
Undoubtedly he is a very talented coach due to what he achieve at Barca, but the guy has never really worked with technically deficient players for a prolonged period. Imagine him trying to play with a midfield of Hojbjerg and Skipp? Only one centre back who’s comfortable on the ball? No playmakers whatsoever in the squad?
The squad would have to be completely rebuilt which lets be honest is highly unlikely to happen. Whoever comes in will have to make use of Dier, Hojbjerg, Davies, Sessengnon et al.
Enrique would be the sexy appointment, but when you strip back the layers one can see like Mourinho, like Nuno and indeed like Conte, it’s almost certain to fail.
Agree it’s not about who is the best manager but who is the best fit for us. Poch on that list is probably the best, if it’s widened to other managers like Gallardo, Kompany etc I think we have a more interesting conversation. We need someone who has the right style but also a history of working with young and underperforming players.
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