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Manager Antonio Conte

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Right, so taking your point, did you think Mou was the right appt? What did you think at the time? Was he the winner we needed?

If not, then was Conte the right appt? What did you think at the time? Was he the winner that we needed?
So will our recognition of "get(tting) the manager right" only come in hindsight? If it works then it was the right appt. If it doesn't then we go again. But rest assured it has nothing to do with ENIC...and that's all that matters in the grand scheme of things.

Is that close to what you're saying?

Fair question.

Mourinho no. Always was going tp out players and simply past his peerless best.

Conte, I thought would be a success but the honest truth is that I had no idea he was as rigid as he has been, systen wise and nor did I foresee such paucity in cosching our team how to defend.

I am quite agnostic when it comes to us playing a certain way but I expected us to be harder to beat and for Conte to show leadership. It's been absent.

But this is not about ENIC or Levy. That's about a long run of poor luck to some extent and only Pochettino over-achieving.

Nuno was always going to be a nono.
 
Any which way you look at it


Obscene for what we are getting bs k in terms of vfm!
Assume cunte is watching Brighton and SU get to fa cup semi finals with their big history. We couldn’t of course compete with them unless we spent £1B on players and paid the manager a miserly £30M / yr.
You get nothing fur £15M / yr these days. To quote cunte himself you pay £15M / yr to a manager and you get a £15M / yr manager.
 
Poch would be the sensible appointment so they won’t do it. It will be some other coach who’s the current flavour of the month like di zerbi rather than someone they actually planned for.
I don't trust the club to employ the right manager, they need to be honest with the next victim though.
They just need to say, you can't win anything, but that's ok, try to get fourth if you can and keep the money flowing in.
 
Fair question.

Mourinho no. Always was going tp out players and simply past his peerless best.

Conte, I thought would be a success but the honest truth is that I had no idea he was as rigid as he has been, systen wise and nor did I foresee such paucity in cosching our team how to defend.

I am quite agnostic when it comes to us playing a certain way but I expected us to be harder to beat and for Conte to show leadership. It's been absent.

But this is not about ENIC or Levy. That's about a long run of poor luck to some extent and only Pochettino over-achieving.

Nuno was always going to be a nono.
Goodness man, you've just laid out a trend and then concluded the problem ISN'T the very entities responsible for putting that trend in motion. It's NOT luck, it a systemic and systematic error in the way we do our business, in the way we are managed...POCH was the luck, the chance, the one thing that wasn't like the others.

And my post was mostly about getting the right appt, which was your point. There is no way to know what is or isn't the right appt at the time of appt. All you can do is take the evidence you have and make the best decision. None of the last 3 appts were right from the beginning and some of us knew that. And of us that knew these appts were shit, many also recognize who is at fault for making them and the resulting dumpster fire from them.
 
Do you reckon lightening will strike twice then? I’d love it but I’m wildly sceptical
I'd be confident. He did well at Sasauolo, got them their highest ever points haul in Serie A. Changed the way Brighton play and made them really entertaining and whilst i dont trust our idiots in charge i trust the people at Brighton and they obviously saw something. No sure thing with managers, even Poch coming back would be a risk (i'd be ok with that as well) but i think someone younger on the up is probably the way to go.
 
Do you reckon lightening will strike twice then? I’d love it but I’m wildly sceptical

Different scenarios of course. We were woeful before Pochettino and expectations were at an all time low following AVB and Sherwood as well as losing the likes of Bale in the years prior. And could never seem to get CL football.

But I think he is a great coach that's passionate about what he does and preaches the right football. I don't think we have the centre backs for what he wants outside of Romero so hopefully it also means he fucks off the ones we don't want too.

People underate the likes of Dunk and Webster but both are excellent footballers with the ball at their feet. And both miles ahead of the likes of Dier, Tanganga, Sanchez etc when it comes to doing so.
 
He's definitely deflecting 100% but essentially he's right.

The problem is that he is saying it at a time where questions need to be asked of him, we aren't playing well and haven't played well all season which is on the manager not the owners.

Timing would have been better if he came out and said this the moment we qualified for top 4 but saying it now must sounds like he's passing the buck even though we know he is correct.
Yes he's totally right, but he's not the person to say it as he is very much to blame. His shit tactics, his shit substitutions and his shit man management.
The criticism of the owners is spot on.
 
One thing yesterday's rant proved, Antonio Conte is not a decent person. At the age of 53, a multimillionaire no doubt, not happy at his current club, he didn't need to say all that crap.
How do our players feel today?
How about the remaining 10 crucial games?
He should have waited for Monday morning and resign in a quiet manner, all he needed some respect for himself, players and the fans. I don't think he was working for free and yes money has got to do with it, am sure he is on a decent package.

It was the wrong appointment from day 1 so was Jose.
 
I hate Levy and knew this is the way it would end. The fact is I am not going to happy clap some arsehole who is damaging my club because he is incapable of doing his actual job.

What Conte said was 100% about protecting Conte. He has made numerous cock ups this season and delivered us shit football for pretty much his whole tenure as manager apart from a 10 game period at the end of last season. The fact is Conte is another cheque book manager who has spent 100’s of millions over his career as a manager to win one knockout tie in the Champions League that is because he is a coward. The fact is he has made qualifying for the Champions League last season with two of the best forwards in the world sound like a miracle last season. The fact is he wanted Lenglet and Perisic last summer the two most unredeemable signings of last summer. The fact is he was backed and does not think he needs to do his job. The fact we play better when he is not involved should tell everyone what they need to know.

The problem is we signed the wrong person we should have signed the person who built those Inter and Juve teams that are responsible for most his titles. At the end of the day he has benefitted greatly off other peoples work and only works in the short term.
You had me at “ I hate Levy and knew this is the way it would end”. Couldn’t agree more!
& yeah I agree conte was a terrible fit for us but that’s levy for you. The guy who got nuno in to take us to the next level.
But I do disagree that he is damaging the club with his comments. Any words he says is nothing compared to the damage levy & enic have done.
Also I think we are burying are head in the sands if we pretend the manager is the issue for the 10th time or whatever it is. It needed to be said that these players aren’t good enough & the owners are losers & don’t even care about it.
 
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