Jesse Marsch is available.....no one's mentioned the yank
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Doesn’t matter who we get. In fact anyone in this list could be amazing or could be guff. Problems are clearly higher up and our lack of coherent strategy. If Levy and co don’t address this more clubs will follow the Brighton and Brentford models and end up catching/overtaking us. Villa seem to be getting their act together, Fulham punching above their weight, Chelsea will come good eventually. The choice of manager is pretty important but the right DOF and 5 year plan is more so
slot could bring santiago gimenez with him
NO..NO..NO
He can take Nagelsmann's place on the poll
I don’t think the eredivisie is that weak at all right now. They have just recently gotten a second direct spot to the CL and have performed well in Europe at least in the EL and the conference league. Feyenoord are going to win with like 89 points this year which is way above average so they are simply good. West Ham probably has 5 times the budget of AZ so it’s not so crazy that they could win that tie.
The reality is, people have no clue what managers find success at new clubs. Sometimes stories coaches like Conte and Mourinho fail and brand new coaches that people have never heard of succeed. It’s about finding the right coach for the situation at the club and those coaches could come from anywhere.
Case in point, de Zerbi.
This is a so called expert with over 50 years experience in football.
But West Ham having 5x the budget of Feyenoord's competition is the point. That is the Premier League. Teams near the bottom have good managers (ok, not west ham) and full internationals they pay 50-60m for. It's a different monster.
Slot may well be this rising star but he could just also be a big fish in a small pond and when he's thrown in to the fucking shark tank that is the Premier League it will be sink or swim.
De Zerbi came in to a club with a fraction of the expectations, with an excellent structure already left behind by Potter, which suited what he wanted to do to a tee. Everything was set up well for him to come in and tinker/add a bit of his own flair.
Obviously the sky sports "da foreigners don't understand our league!' shite is rubbish, but coming in and taking over a Spurs is still an absolute nightmare of a job, even for the most experienced coach.
de Zerbi could quite easily have flopped though. That is the point.
Hypotehtically, he could have been someone we could have been linked with back in 2021 when we were searching for a new manager post Mourinho and people on this forum would be wondering why the fuck are we after a guy with a 35% win percentage at Sassuolo.
Certain managers can suit certain clubs. Slot doing well at both AZ and Feyenoord in his four years of management looks good on him, especially when you consider both clubs have less resources than Ajax and PSV yet he challenged them with both clubs, finished second on goal difference with one and won the league with the other, even after losing key players and having his players perform better than their abilities are typically capable of.
Is it a risk bringing him in? Of course it is. But a risk I'd much rather take over hiring someone with "Prem experience" like Rodgers
What is your point if it’s not “da foreigners coming in don’t understand our league”?
It’s a massive test for anyone to manage in the PL. What is it that makes this a particular gamble? There’s nothing intrinsically different about managing a PL side.
Fact is, every appointment is a huge risk.
WestHam actually
West Ham actually has 15 x the AZ budget.
An excellent example. You need to look closely at what the coach has accomplished elsewhere and not at the cliches that coaches from this or that place can’t succeed. Look at what your team has and what it needs and hire a coach based on that, not on name recognition or what league he comes from or whatever. That shit doesn’t matter.
That this league is a different level entirely in terms of ability of your peers. A coach who stands out at Feyenoord may well come to England and find that his methods aren't all that unique, and if he doesn't have the gravitas then good luck winning the respect of a bunch of high level internationals.
Of course there is. The pressure is far different, the exposure is 10x higher than anywhere else, you're dealing with bigger egos, all of it. You think there's no intrinsic difference between managing in the Eredivisie and the Premier League? You're wrong.
I don’t see how it matters that the financial scale is different. It doesn’t change the qualities of a manager. Ajax has more then 5 times the budget of Feyenoord but Feyenoord still beat them this year. Obviously the scale of the PL is much larger but I don’t think that is relevant. A good manager is a good manager.
Of course it does.
Most PL teams have top coaches. Aston fucking Villa have Unai Emery. This is who a Slot would be competing with.
What level do you think his peers in the Eredivisie at? Even comaprable? The financial level = EVERYTHING is harder and more competitive. Every game is a fucking wrestle in the mud unless you're Manchester City.
This is NOT comparable to punching the shit out of Fc Zwolle or Go Ahead Eagles every other week.
Having watched that this evening. I say you are right and for his sake I hope he comes nowhere near us. It’s great so see Brighton doing so well. And why ruin it ?
Mad, but don’t want the guy here for his sake, he is better off where he is.
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