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Management Next Manager Poll (poll reset 11/04/23)

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Next Manager

  • Rodgers

    Votes: 15 3.6%

  • Potter

    Votes: 25 5.9%

  • Nagelsmann

    Votes: 177 41.9%

  • Kompany

    Votes: 43 10.2%

  • Slot

    Votes: 91 21.6%

  • Postecoglou

    Votes: 74 17.5%

  • De Zerbi

    Votes: 31 7.3%

  • Xabi Alonso

    Votes: 11 2.6%

  • Stellini

    Votes: 4 0.9%

  • Frank

    Votes: 10 2.4%

  • Luis Enrique

    Votes: 21 5.0%

  • Zidane

    Votes: 5 1.2%

  • Glasner

    Votes: 3 0.7%

  • Amorim

    Votes: 10 2.4%

  • Carrick

    Votes: 9 2.1%

  • Gallardo

    Votes: 23 5.5%

  • Schmidt

    Votes: 2 0.5%
  • Total voters
    422
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Brian Fantana said:
On the VFTL podcast they make a pretty compelling argument as to why it’s not the end of the world that it won’t be Nagelsmann. Worth a listen I reckon.
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Nagelsmann is clearly a very competent and promising coach.

But given how he was sacked by Bayern in spite of the results and that Chelsea also distanced themselves from him. Maybe there is something about him that keeps popping up.

We as a fanbase obviously want the club to do their due diligence since they seemingly didn't on Paratici. So maybe something came up in that stage. Or do we only want that when it is someone that the fanbase isn't enamoured with?

Just to play Devil's advocate.
 
ShutUpPatrik said:
Nagelsmann is clearly a very competent and promising coach.

But given how he was sacked by Bayern in spite of the results and that Chelsea also distanced themselves from him. Maybe there is something about him that keeps popping up.

We as a fanbase obviously want the club to do their due diligence since they seemingly didn't on Paratici. So maybe something came up in that stage. Or do we only want that when it is someone that the fanbase isn't enamoured with?

Just to play Devil's advocate.
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Correct. Good post.

We need stability and not someone who may be a competent coach but is liable to lunatic moments, which are impossible to control.
 
ShutUpPatrik said:
Nagelsmann is clearly a very competent and promising coach.

But given how he was sacked by Bayern in spite of the results and that Chelsea also distanced themselves from him. Maybe there is something about him that keeps popping up.

We as a fanbase obviously want the club to do their due diligence since they seemingly didn't on Paratici. So maybe something came up in that stage. Or do we only want that when it is someone that the fanbase isn't enamoured with?

Just to play Devil's advocate.
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Yeah I'm getting red flags about Nagelsmann, he's definitely the most favorable on the market but I can't ignore what happened with Bayern and Chelsea turning him down.
 
Matt1882 said:
Point of interest, this was the first season since 1995 that Villa doubled us. n 1995 they were possibly our biggest bogie team.
So folks - all the "it's not as bad as the 90's" is starting to wear thin.
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I was one of about 25,,000 at the Lane when they beat us.
And, BTW, if I recollect correctly, Forest beat us home and away too — and knocked us out the Cup — so look how far we’ve come.
And that was one of our better years under Sugar.

So folks - all the "it's as bad as the 90's" is starting to wear thin”.
 
GeorgeGraham said:
I was one of about 25,,000 at the Lane when they beat us.
And, BTW, if I recollect correctly, Forest beat us home and away too — and knocked us out the Cup — so look how far we’ve come.
And that was one of our better years under Sugar.

So folks - all the "it's as bad as the 90's" is starting to wear thin”.
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94/95 - 7th
95/96 - 8th

Then 10th, 14th..... basically a mid table vanilla club.
This is where we're headed. especially when Kane goes and no one can win points we wouldn't otherwise get.
 
Larry David said:
People were saying the same about Bissouma when we nicked him off them, they said the same aboht trossard when the goons pinched him

Brighton have a conveyor belt mate
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It's a good model but it is most definitely not sustainable, at some point these players run out or another team gets wise to the scouting setup, happened with Leicester and Southampton on the last few years, teams like Brighton tend to get caught up by everyone else and since they have one of the lowest wage expenditure in the league they can get easily surpassed in the next few years.
 
I think Kane & Mason's comments about culture are harking back to what is probably the only real "project" our club has seen in the C21st, the journey to peak Poch. I've linked to Poch's comments about the three players who most embraced & lived his philosophy being Lallana (at Soton), Kane and Mason.

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Last year, when Pochettino was asked which players have best embraced his ideas, the three he named were Mason, Harry Kane and Adam Lallana.

'They understood the philosophy about the game but also how we were human,' he said. 'They immediately captured our essence and went to the death with us.'
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At PSG, Poch had too many prima donnas to create a culture, and too many players who expected teammates to do their running for them to play a meaningful pressing game.

I suspect the Boehly consortium have accepted those "mitigations" about Poch's time at PSG, and are now backing him to create a culture for their hugely expensive, scattergun assembled, squad. I hope he fails with the chavs, but like Klopp or Guardiola he has the personal authority & charisma to stand a fair chance of succeeding.

Kane's comments also suggest that neither Mourinho nor Conte created the type of culture he'd experienced as a young player coming into his prime under Poch. Most of this season, our players have looked timid & fearful. And despite being flogged in pre-season, with players vomiting on the pitch, our fitness has rarely seemed to be a telling factor in matches.

Ideally, I would like our club to risk a similar "project" to that of Poch, which will probably necessitate using young talented players in their early 20s, getting them extremely fit, and coaching creative attacking tactics for building play rather than the tediously defensive, passive drills of Conte which sucked the joy out of players.

If Nagelsmann is out, then Slot (that Athletic piece is insightful) and Xabi Alonso are the ones that seem most likely to be able to create a culture & a way of playing as thrilling as peak Poch.

We need a fundamental reset. Levy needs to hire Slot or Xabi, a DoF who knows what he's doing, and then get out of the way.

Management - Ryan Mason
 
Larry David said:
People were saying the same about Bissouma when we nicked him off them, they said the same aboht trossard when the goons pinched him

Brighton have a conveyor belt mate
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Absolutely.

Look at Mitoma just a few weeks after the hype.

You would be hard pressed to justify more than 30m on Mitoma now.

And then they have Enciso already coming through.

100% without doubt they have the nous and agility to recover from losing Caicedo and MacAllister
 
Smogz said:
Isn't the Levy is cheap an old take. It's not really true anymore. I read somewhere that Conte was backed with players for 192 Mil. And Mourinho, and Conte wasn't the cheap choices. Maybe Nuno was, but I think he was Paritici's choice.

What is true however is that the organisation responsible for finding these players and managers has failed miserably. There isn't many starters among the 20+ players we have got since Pochettino left. And the one's who are starting haven't made us better. What Levy needs to do is let Munn hire a DoF, that needs to get us a new manager. Levy also needs to budget as much or more than he did for Conte, and stay the fuck away.
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I think the cheap accusation still applies if you look at how many players the money spent is spread over and wages per player.

Also, we still only buy players with long term potential but have been crying out for a leader like casemiro for years.
 
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