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Manager Jose Mourinho

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Jose would have been good this season for them. Experienced elite players that don’t press, only thing is his football is boring and expectation is to win the title at a min while winning the CL.

PSG is weird, you fail unless you win the CL meaning every manager is a failure.
 
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I worked with Mourinho at Utd, he used to play whipped cream pranks on stars

JOSE MOURINHO was a “prankster” at Manchester United but could also be a “nightmare”, the club’s former masseuse has revealed. Rod Thornley, 47, spent 19 years working…
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JO-KER

I worked with Mourinho at Man Utd, he was a prankster who put whipped cream in players’ hands when they slept on flights​


  • Published: 9:20, 20 Apr 2023
  • Updated: 9:36, 20 Apr 2023
JOSE MOURINHO was a "prankster" at Manchester United but could also be a "nightmare", the club's former masseuse has revealed.
Rob Thornley, 47, spent 19 years working at Old Trafford under the likes of Sir Alex Ferguson, David Moyes and Louis van Gaal.
Jose Mourinho spent two and a half years as Manchester United manager

Jose Mourinho spent two and a half years as Manchester United managerCredit: Getty

Bod Thornley, centre, worked with Mourinho at Man UtdCredit: Reuters
But it was Mourinho, 60, who stood out during his two-and-a-half-year spell at the club between 2016 and 2018.
Speaking on the Undr The Cosh podcast, he said: "The best way I can explain Jose is, on his good days, he was amazing to work for and he made me feel brilliant.

And that includes a playful side to the ex-Chelsea and Real Madrid head coach - one many may not associate with the Portuguese boss.

He added: "On his bad days, god he was a nightmare. He knew I'll talk to a player and knew how to p*** a player off and stuff.

"It just depended on where he was at, not just that day, but that part of his contract and towards the end he was really hard work.

"But at the start, the first two years really, Jose was was brilliant.

"He was a prankster. So like when you get on a plane going on pre-season and stuff, he'd be one of them putting like whipped cream in people's hands so when they wake up people they'd go like that [splat motion]."

Mourinho finished sixth in his first Premier League season with Man Utd as they won the League Cup and Europa League.

In his second and final full campaign with the Red Devils, he took them to second place in the league.

He was dismissed in December 2018 with United sixth in the table, 11 points adrift of the Champions League places.


Since departing Old Trafford, Mourinho endured an unsuccessful 17-month spell at Tottenham.

He then joined Roma in May 2021 and lifted the Europa Conference League last season.

With eight games remaining of the 2022/23 Serie A campaign, the Italian side sit third in the table.

They are also in the Europa League quarter-finals - where they will bid to overturn a one-goal deficit in the second leg of their tie against Feyenoord on Thursday evening.




"It made me feel better than Sir Alex [Ferguson] ever did. He made me a part of his little close circle and I loved it."
Thornley, who also revealed Cristiano Ronaldo sold him a car for a cut-price fee in exchange for a Pussycat Doll's phone number, opened up about Mourinho's mood swings.
 
Pathfinder said:
www.thesun.co.uk

I worked with Mourinho at Utd, he used to play whipped cream pranks on stars

JOSE MOURINHO was a “prankster” at Manchester United but could also be a “nightmare”, the club’s former masseuse has revealed. Rod Thornley, 47, spent 19 years working…
www.thesun.co.uk www.thesun.co.uk

JO-KER

I worked with Mourinho at Man Utd, he was a prankster who put whipped cream in players’ hands when they slept on flights​


  • Published: 9:20, 20 Apr 2023
  • Updated: 9:36, 20 Apr 2023
JOSE MOURINHO was a "prankster" at Manchester United but could also be a "nightmare", the club's former masseuse has revealed.
Rob Thornley, 47, spent 19 years working at Old Trafford under the likes of Sir Alex Ferguson, David Moyes and Louis van Gaal.
Jose Mourinho spent two and a half years as Manchester United manager

Jose Mourinho spent two and a half years as Manchester United managerCredit: Getty

Bod Thornley, centre, worked with Mourinho at Man UtdCredit: Reuters
But it was Mourinho, 60, who stood out during his two-and-a-half-year spell at the club between 2016 and 2018.
Speaking on the Undr The Cosh podcast, he said: "The best way I can explain Jose is, on his good days, he was amazing to work for and he made me feel brilliant.

And that includes a playful side to the ex-Chelsea and Real Madrid head coach - one many may not associate with the Portuguese boss.

He added: "On his bad days, god he was a nightmare. He knew I'll talk to a player and knew how to p*** a player off and stuff.

"It just depended on where he was at, not just that day, but that part of his contract and towards the end he was really hard work.

"But at the start, the first two years really, Jose was was brilliant.

"He was a prankster. So like when you get on a plane going on pre-season and stuff, he'd be one of them putting like whipped cream in people's hands so when they wake up people they'd go like that [splat motion]."

Mourinho finished sixth in his first Premier League season with Man Utd as they won the League Cup and Europa League.

In his second and final full campaign with the Red Devils, he took them to second place in the league.

He was dismissed in December 2018 with United sixth in the table, 11 points adrift of the Champions League places.


Since departing Old Trafford, Mourinho endured an unsuccessful 17-month spell at Tottenham.

He then joined Roma in May 2021 and lifted the Europa Conference League last season.

With eight games remaining of the 2022/23 Serie A campaign, the Italian side sit third in the table.

They are also in the Europa League quarter-finals - where they will bid to overturn a one-goal deficit in the second leg of their tie against Feyenoord on Thursday evening.




"It made me feel better than Sir Alex [Ferguson] ever did. He made me a part of his little close circle and I loved it."
Thornley, who also revealed Cristiano Ronaldo sold him a car for a cut-price fee in exchange for a Pussycat Doll's phone number, opened up about Mourinho's mood swings.
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It wasn't whipped cream....
 
Doc said:
Imagine we'd signed proper starting level players instead of Rodon and Doherty. Doubt we'd have made much of a dent over a 38 game league season, but a good chance we'd have managed some silverware.
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I just honestly don't understand what the fuck happened in Zagreb.

Conte's exit rant rings louder and louder as I think back on those sorts of things. This is why I'm becoming so single-minded about binning off the players whose "leadership" has been shown to be lacking for so long.
 
FightingIllini said:
I just honestly don't understand what the fuck happened in Zagreb.

Conte's exit rant rings louder and louder as I think back on those sorts of things. This is why I'm becoming so single-minded about binning off the players whose "leadership" has been shown to be lacking for so long.
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Wasn't the major selling point of Conte & Jose to fix and instill a winning mentality that Poch couldn't foster? ..........Biggest disappointment of the pair of them IMO.

Norwich, Middlesborough, Sheff Utd., Chavs double-header wank-fest, Zagreb, a shit ACMilan.
 
Airfixx said:
Wasn't the major selling point of Conte & Jose to fix and instill a winning mentality that Poch couldn't foster? ..........Biggest disappointment of the pair of them IMO.
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The problem isn't them, it's us. In the fullness of time we can now see that crystal clearly.

“When you talk about Tottenham, everyone says you have an amazing house but you need to put in the furniture. If you want to have a lovely house maybe you need better furniture. And it depends on your budget if you are going to spend money. We need to be respectful with teams like Manchester City or Liverpool who spend a lot of money. We are brave, we are clever, we are creative.

“Now it’s about creating another chapter and to have the clear idea of how we are going to build that new project. We need to rebuild. It’s going to be painful.”
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That was five days before Amsterdam. We took 11 points from our last 12 league games that year.

The worst situation is what was happening on the pitch. What has been happening in the last few months, what is happening in my second season.

I think that it's the right moment to speak because I think that after this performance, for me this is unacceptable. We are winning 3-1, in control of the game and you are able to concede two goals and risk [conceding even more], because also Fraser [Forster] made a fantastic save in one situation. I think it's much better to go into the problem, because the problem is that for another time we showed that we are not a team.

We are 11 players that go into the pitch. I see selfish players, I see players that don't want to help each other and don't put their heart.

Before today I prefer to hide this situation and to try to speak, to try to improve the spirit, the situation, with the words, with a lot of situations. Because about tactical or technical aspect, this is one situation. The most important thing if you want to become a strong team, if you want to become competitive, if you want to fight to win, is the desire, the fire that you need to have in your eyes, in your heart, and you have to show this in every moment. In every moment.

If I have to compare last season and this season, we have to improve, but now we are worse in this aspect. When you are not a team, anything can happen, in any moment. Today is the last situation. Don't forget that in FA Cup we lost to Sheffield United, who played with young players. We were able with a strong team to be dropped from the FA Cup. And then a lot of situations, I repeat, that we are not going to improve. And I am not speaking about tactical aspects or technical aspects.

About being a team, being a team, being a team, it is the most important thing. To understand that we play for the badge. We have to play to make our fans proud of us. We have to play to show desire. The fire in your eyes to win. If you have this, for sure, you don't go out in FA Cup and today you win.

Maybe previously in the other games something can change. But here we're used to it for a long time. The club has the responsibility for the transfer market, every coach that stayed here has the responsibility. And the players? The players? Where are the players? In my experience, I can tell you that if you want to be competitive, if you want to fight, you have to improve this aspect. And this aspect, I can tell you, in this moment is really, really low. And I see only 11 players that play for themselves."

A question was then aimed at Conte, who resumed his rant before the journalist had finished speaking. The question had started: "But does your future, the uncertainty..."

Conte hit back: "You are finding an alibi, another alibi. You try to find an excuse for the players. OK, continue to do this, to find an excuse for the players. You do only this! You do only this. Excuses for the players. 'But the players, maybe, my future, then we lost confidence, they lost spirit, they lost being a team...' Excuses. Excuses. Excuse. Try to protect them every time.

Come on, come on, come on. We are professional. The club pay us a lot of money. The players receive money, me receive money, you understand? Not to find excuse or not show spirit or show a sense of belonging or don't show a sense of responsibility because we are showing this. For me this is unacceptable because for me this is the first time in my career to see a situation like this. Until now I wasn't able to change, not to change but compare to last season the situation went to become worse.

Why? Because they are used to it here, they are used to it. They don't play for something important, yeah. They don't want to play under pressure, they don't want to play under stress. It is easy in this way. Tottenham's story is this. 20 years there is the owner and they never won something, but why? The fault is only for the club, or for every manager that stays here? I have seen the managers that Tottenham had on the bench. You risk to disrupt the figure of the manager and to protect the other situation in every moment.
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Every word of both statements was true.
 
FightingIllini said:
The problem isn't them, it's us. In the fullness of time we can now see that crystal clearly.


That was five days before Amsterdam. We took 11 points from our last 12 league games that year.


Every word of both statements was true.
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Not really sure what the relevance of Poch saying in the fluffiest of terms "I want a new squad" is....... Other than it being pretty poor man (mentality!) management to peddling that narrative (and the added "I might leave" zinger!) 5 days before arguably the biggest game in our history.

.....As for Conte; there;s a little something for 'everyone' in there (whatever the persuasion of one's critique); some of it contradictory, but all of it self-excluding and dependent on the implication that we've had the same players for 20 years(*). The irony being that of the significant figures that do remain from the Poch era, he showed ZERO desire to phase them out and in the case of Hugo, Son, Dier (and PEH; a post-Poch player) deemed them un-droppable.

(*If the argument is that the club's mentality is shot-to-shit, then even the 20 year time-framing is dubious as we've struggled at the finish line for more like 38 years.)

To my OG point; now maybe, by the time Conte arrived there was more residual 'mental damage', but fuck me; you'd think at the time Jose ought to have been able to rally them into a more mentally resilient force than to exit all the cups in the manner we were.



(I realise this topic is just a gateway into extremely broad, much covered, yet never universally resolved territory, so I'm inclined to leave it here.............)
 
Parklane13 said:
Not sure how any actual football fan can take any pleasure from watching his cowardly, anti- attacking, ultra defense snoreball . Time wasting from 1st second of the game to the very end, constant gamesmanship, zero attempt to entertain. Complete and utter stain on the game ...
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his style is atrocious, I agree.
but the results he made in all his career were perfect in every team except one. guess who
 
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