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Rather have him than Maddison

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I still have this feeling that ENIC will sell up when Kane goes.

Sell him for £100m, but it’d cost £150m+ to replace him and everything else he does. Plus the gamble of having to hope it pays off.

One last season of hoping we win something, an Carabao Cup, FA Cup… just to say they had. Then sell up.


I could be miles off, but with all the gossip about talks with Saudi and Qatar, it just seems a possibility.
If this summer would most likely hear about it by now.
 
And how did Coutinho turn out for Barca? Or Keita turn out for Liverpool? Or Pepe for Woolwich? The point is that spending 100 million on a player does not always guarantee success. Even if it is a very established player. PSG bought Neymar and Mbappe for crazy amounts and brought in Messi on huge wages. The purpose being to win the CL. Yet, even though these players performed at levels commensurate with their fees, PSG still haven't managed to win the CL and have gotten to exactly the same number of finals as us.

As for the Bale money, we did get a 100 million player in Eriksen (the fact we didn't sell him at his peak, is a different story), some serviceable players in Chadli, Capoue, and Lamela, and a few duds in Paulinho, Chiriches, and Soldado. Interestingly enough, Soldado was considered the big signing at the time. His fee was the equivalent of 60m in today's money. Yet he flopped completely.

Which goes back to the point we have all be harping about, both the "Levy out" and the "I'm fine with Levy" brigades: it's not about how much you pay, it's how good you are at identifying the right players regardless of the price. Something that no team in the world has a 100% hit rate on, with us probably being among the worst.

Agree with that.

But where FSG wipe the floor with ENIC is their conviction and courage to really go after the right player, even if the price is north of 70m
 
I still have this feeling that ENIC will sell up when Kane goes.

Sell him for £100m, but it’d cost £150m+ to replace him and everything else he does. Plus the gamble of having to hope it pays off.

One last season of hoping we win something, an Carabao Cup, FA Cup… just to say they had. Then sell up.


I could be miles off, but with all the gossip about talks with Saudi and Qatar, it just seems a possibility.
A 100M asset has zero bearing on a 5BN nest egg from these speculative chancers
 
The (admittedly little) bits I've seen of Scott have been very impressive. Also we know the championship is physical. I'm in for 30M
 
So that’s £40 million on Raya, £50 million on Maddison, £50 million on sancho, £30 odd million on Gallagher and £30 million on this chap. The window has only been open two days, and it’s looking like we’ll be linked with a billion quids worth of players before the window is up. It’s ridiculous the bullshit these people peddle.
£30m for Winks, £40m for PEH, £40m for Dier and £90m for Rodon and we would break even :tanguythumb:
 
Agree with that.

But where FSG wipe the floor with ENIC is their conviction and courage to really go after the right player, even if the price is north of 70m
I agree to an extent. We did go for expensive players, though, but have whiffed on pretty much all of them, so at this point I wouldn't be surprised if we were a bit gun shy to spend as much. Not to mention we would have a hard time attracting these players, even if we did pony up.

Once our scouting and player assessment has improved and we have some success with a few 40-50 million players, as well as become a more attractive proposition for players, I think we will be willing to take the plunge into higher transfer fees. But we're nowhere close to that at this point in time.

That being said, I do like the model of uncovering the hidden gems more. Not from a financial standpoint, but because it just feels so much more satisfying.
 
So that’s £40 million on Raya, £50 million on Maddison, £50 million on sancho, £30 odd million on Gallagher and £30 million on this chap. The window has only been open two days, and it’s looking like we’ll be linked with a billion quids worth of players before the window is up. It’s ridiculous the bullshit these people peddle.
And no CB in the above lot. :eek:
 
Unless I'm mistaken, when we attack our FBs will cut in and act as DMs in order to allow the CMs and 3 FWDs to all bomb on into attack.

Doesn't really suit either Porro or Spence (I haven't seen anything other than clips of Udogie)..... 80m on makes-shift wingers isn't the best scenario to have found ourselves in, but we'll have to see what Ange has up his sleeve.
I'll take your word for it here bud. Im not hugely up to speed on the intricacies of Ange-ball.

What I may consider is that players will be in very different roles than we might expect.

Hopefully he starts putting rounds pegs in round holes after a while...

I'm just waiting for it all to kick off with the ins and outs. Will tell us a lot
 
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