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Think he nails it when he says the most important thing is recruitment, which is where the club (and this is on Levy in my opinion) has badly lost its way the past few years.

When Klopp had a load of shite at Liverpool, they competed for 6th place, a Europa League team. When he had quality players (some low priced gems like Robertson, some expensive signings like VVD) they competed for - and won - the league and champions league.
Disagree. The lack of leadership and culture throughout the club is the most important thing to change. Snakes at the top.

Poch smashed through this for a while, let’s hope Ange can revitalise and motivate 1000 employees, as the parasite hangers on echo chamber certainly won’t galvanise them
 
Thats why its so frustrating when the likes of Airfixx Airfixx , NotThatTedHughes NotThatTedHughes and LeParisien LeParisien are belittling and debasing our great Club on a daily basis to try and fight Levy's corner and defend his record.

A Big Club. A Great club. But a club being used and whored by parasites
.Not little tottenham punching above our weight like they want you to believe

Good Lord, don't you rest?

I'm convinced you're actually a bot 😆
 
Thats why its so frustrating when the likes of Airfixx Airfixx , NotThatTedHughes NotThatTedHughes and LeParisien LeParisien are belittling and debasing our great Club on a daily basis to try and fight Levy's corner and defend his record.

A Big Club. A Great club. But a club being used and whored by parasites
.Not little tottenham punching above our weight like they want you to believe
If you’re interested in facts and honest discussion then let’s go. I don’t know if you can discuss this like an adult but I’m open to it.

Which of the following clubs is bigger than us?

Manchester United
Liverpool
Woolwich
Manchester City
Chelsea

Actually tell us. If the answers all of them then we are the 6th biggest club in england.

My view is that the first three were bigger before ENIC took over. Clearly more trophies and more fans than us. The latter two have had unstoppable rises since ENIC took over.

That group of 5 clubs has in the last 20 years …

- Competed 14 times in champions league finals
- Won 6 of them
- Won 19 league titles

Chelsea and City alone have competed 5 times in CL finals, won 3, won 10 out of the last 14 league titles….

So tell us very clearly. Which of those clubs are we bigger and greater than?
 


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Ignoring the Levy bit between Souness and Jordan.

‘’one of the genuinely big clubs in our country’’. Loved that statement, obviously older guy who remembers us from past decades.
Sick of living in the past, tho, tbh.

Bald cunt needs to fuck off and let someone who want to - GENUINELY - bring back true glory to this club, take the wheel.

#BaldAccountantCuntFuckOFFCunt
 
If you’re interested in facts and honest discussion then let’s go. I don’t know if you can discuss this like an adult but I’m open to it.

Which of the following clubs is bigger than us?

Manchester United
Liverpool
Woolwich
Manchester City
Chelsea

Actually tell us. If the answers all of them then we are the 6th biggest club in england.

My view is that the first three were bigger before ENIC took over. Clearly more trophies and more fans than us. The latter two have had unstoppable rises since ENIC took over.

That group of 5 clubs has in the last 20 years …

- Competed 14 times in champions league finals
- Won 6 of them
- Won 19 league titles

Chelsea and City alone have competed 5 times in CL finals, won 3, won 10 out of the last 14 league titles….

So tell us very clearly. Which of those clubs are we bigger and greater than?
We are bigger than Chelsea and City. Over the last 20 years we have been held back by Enic and Levy. They have made countless bad decisions regarding the football team you know this, so stop fucking defending them. By now we should have had the right football people in to help us win things, but whenever that seems to happen Poch etc, they wont ever take a chance and back them properly. When Levy (rarely) spends money its wasted because the scouting department is shit, that's his fault too. In fact if he just stopped interfering in football matters altogether the football club would be better off.
 
There's 2 debates really.
What IS a big club?
Are we one of them?

I think if you insist we are a big club, then there are other clubs who aren't always regarded that way, that maybe should be.
Villa and Everton MUST be in the conversation. They're only 1 and 2 trophies down on us.

Below them are Newcastle, Forrest and Wolves.

Quite an interesting table this. Despite Chelsea's billions and how much they have won in the last 23 years, they're only 8 trophies ahead of us, and only won 4 more league titles. So we're closer to 4th placed Chelsea, than they are to 3rd placed Arse

 
There's 2 debates really.
What IS a big club?
Are we one of them?

I think if you insist we are a big club, then there are other clubs who aren't always regarded that way, that maybe should be.
Villa and Everton MUST be in the conversation. They're only 1 and 2 trophies down on us.

Below them are Newcastle, Forrest and Wolves.

Quite an interesting table this. Despite Chelsea's billions and how much they have won in the last 23 years, they're only 8 trophies ahead of us, and only won 4 more league titles. So we're closer to 4th placed Chelsea, than they are to 3rd placed Arse

I don’t agree with you all the time but you have been making some really good evidence-based posts lately.

If everyone on ENIC out had your approach then discussion would be a lot better on here.
 
We are bigger than Chelsea and City. Over the last 20 years we have been held back by Enic and Levy. They have made countless bad decisions regarding the football team you know this, so stop fucking defending them. By now we should have had the right football people in to help us win things, but whenever that seems to happen Poch etc, they wont ever take a chance and back them properly. When Levy (rarely) spends money its wasted because the scouting department is shit, that's his fault too. In fact if he just stopped interfering in football matters altogether the football club would be better off.
Ok but then on your logic being a bigger or greater club brings no expectations of trophies. We are bigger and greater than Chelsea and City but NOONE has been able to stop their rise.

Along with Real Madrid and Barcelona, they’ve been the most impactful clubs of the past 20 years. Maybe Juventus and Inter want a word too? But they’re right up there.

Clearly being a big or gréât club is not necessary or sufficient to win trophies
 
We are bigger than Chelsea and City. Over the last 20 years we have been held back by Enic and Levy. They have made countless bad decisions regarding the football team you know this, so stop fucking defending them. By now we should have had the right football people in to help us win things, but whenever that seems to happen Poch etc, they wont ever take a chance and back them properly. When Levy (rarely) spends money its wasted because the scouting department is shit, that's his fault too. In fact if he just stopped interfering in football matters altogether the football club would be better off.
Jesus fucking Christ. It’s just delusion ignoring that city and Chelsea have basically circumvented any financial rules. They’ve passed basically every other English club too.
 
We are bigger than Chelsea and City. Over the last 20 years we have been held back by Enic and Levy. They have made countless bad decisions regarding the football team you know this, so stop fucking defending them. By now we should have had the right football people in to help us win things, but whenever that seems to happen Poch etc, they wont ever take a chance and back them properly. When Levy (rarely) spends money its wasted because the scouting department is shit, that's his fault too. In fact if he just stopped interfering in football matters altogether the football club would be better off.

Were bigger
Get over it. They have caught us and surpassed us and they will only widen the gap year on year.

How many years of mediocrity and failure do you need to endure before you accept it?
 
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