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Transfers Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)

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Levy should be feeling shame looking at families finding £80 a pop for their kids to buy a ticket when he hasn’t even feigned an attempt to keep up.

Depending on the game; kids are as little as £15, mate..... Even £70 adult seats for Cat A games are only £35 for juniors & OAPs.

 
We took 31 players on our preseason tour and that was with about 5 first teamers left at home injured. We absolutely do have to sell before we buy, that is the sad consequence of our abysmal transfer business in the last 5 years. Even Chelsea, with all their money, had to flog countless players before they could start buying this summer.
Agree and disagree, we need to streamline, but that comes in phases.

In that we need to buy early, because we aspire to the higher calibre players potentially avaialable.

Yet, in waiting until we unload, we are placing ourselves at the end of the market. When we could buy, and take the potential hit on a few we may get lowballed because clubs see we already have replacements.

It‘s Football Fan Stockholm Syndrome, to not be utterly perplexed by Levy/ENIC right now.
 
Firstly, no one is 'bigging up' Woolwich when we complain that their transfer expenditure is more than ours.

Secondly, the way you use statistics is flawed.

I've seen your posts on this- you take a fixed time point (when we moved into new stadium) and then compare net spend since then.
But the fact that our net spend was far lower than theirs before this point distorts the statistic. This is because they can sell the product of their previous high spend to fund players for a lower 'net spend' but same value.

Simplified hypothetical to demonstrate my point:
2020-2023:
Club A spend £100m on strikers, 0 sales,
Club B spend £30m on strikers, 0 sales.

2024-2026:
Club A sell the previously bought strikers for £50m, and spend another £100m on strikers.
Club B sell the previously bought strikers for £15m, and spend another £65m on strikers.

The 2024-2026 net spend on strikers for both clubs are identical. But Club A's strikers between 2024-2026 are of higher value.


Of course the usual caveats apply... monetary value may not = performance etc. But if we are discussing expenditure, this point is very relevant.
I put an agree on this because it’s a great point well made.

However, setting the limit at the time the new stadium opened is reasonable. For one, the stadium depressed spending before we opened in a pretty blatant way. This did not affect our rivals.

Secondly, the new stadium has increased our capacity to spend so the time since then is a better representation of our capacity (and perhaps willingness) to spend.

Of course there are a lot of factors at play here but there is a story behind setting the cut off that Airfixx Airfixx did. The data only measures what it measures and doesn’t give a complete picture but it does enough to dispel certain persistant myths around a reluctance to spend.

The issue is surely HOW we spend, not HOW MUCH we spend.
 
Glad we didn't go for Tosin, he was for sale and not a single Premier League team showed any serious interest. We should have brought in at least one centre back by now, but not that one.

I doubt we’d be even interested if he weren’t entering the final year of his contract.

There’s no planning or targeting of players. It’s all opportunity and whoever an agent offers. We just aren’t a serious football club.
 
Agree and disagree, we need to streamline, but that comes in phases.

In that we need to buy early, because we aspire to the higher calibre players potentially avaialable.

Yet, in waiting until we unload, we are placing ourselves at the end of the market. When we could buy, and take the potential hit on a few we may get lowballed because clubs see we already have replacements.

It‘s Football Fan Stockholm Syndrome, to not be utterly perplexed by Levy/ENIC right now.

Don't forget that we're paying these very average players more than most clubs in other countries can afford. So any player that doesn't give a fuck about playing is more than happy to stay at the club and collect their wages on the bench. Fantastic scouting!
 
Agree and disagree, we need to streamline, but that comes in phases.

In that we need to buy early, because we aspire to the higher calibre players potentially avaialable.

Yet, in waiting until we unload, we are placing ourselves at the end of the market. When we could buy, and take the potential hit on a few we may get lowballed because clubs see we already have replacements.

It‘s Football Fan Stockholm Syndrome, to not be utterly perplexed by Levy/ENIC right now.

I don't want to defend Levy because this mess is all of his own making, but no responsible chairman is going to add significant new contracts to our current wage bill while there are so many unwanted players on big salaries.

Reguilon, Ndombele, Gil, Rodon, Perisic, Lloris, Sanchez, Tanganga, Sessegnon, Spence, we are probably paying them more than £1m a week altogether. Until those salaries are officially off our books we don't have much leeway for new contracts.

It will also be very difficult to get rid of those players so far away from the deadline, any interested clubs will wait until they know we are desperate. All the years of bad transfers are killing us now.
 
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