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Transfers Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)

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Richard Arlison said:
Nope.
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Erling Haaland signs for Borussia Dortmund from Red Bull Salzburg

Sky Sports News understands United met Haalands €20m release clause but refused to meet conditions for the transfer
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This alludes to their already being a clause in EHs contract when he first joined BVB.

I can't find reference to the exact amount, but it was always accepted that BVB only got the jump on him as from day one the clause meant that they'd only have him for a short period of time and wouldn't make a massive profit on him.

It was all meticulously managed by Raiola from day one.

> RBS - 8m release clause
> BVB - 20m release clause
> Man C - 60m (reduced to 50m)

A release clause of 100 - 150m (whatever you said it was) would have hampered all that strategy; but it also wouldn't have put off Man U from buying him in 2019 as the much higher amount would have only reflected his perceived future value anyway.
 
Airfixx said:
www.skysports.com

Erling Haaland signs for Borussia Dortmund from Red Bull Salzburg

Sky Sports News understands United met Haalands €20m release clause but refused to meet conditions for the transfer
www.skysports.com www.skysports.com

This alludes to their already being a clause in EHs contract when he first joined BVB.

I can't find reference to the exact amount, but it was always accepted that BVB only got the jump on him as from day one the clause meant that they'd only have him for a short period of time and wouldn't make a massive profit on him.

It was all meticulously managed by Raiola from day one.

> RBS - 8m release clause
> BVB - 20m release clause
> Man C - 60m (reduced to 50m)

A release clause of 100 - 150m (whatever you said it was) would have hampered all that strategy; but it also wouldn't have put off Man U from buying him in 2019 as the much higher amount would have only reflected his perceived future value anyway.
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Makes for an interesting comparison to his compatriot and similarly aged wunderkind Odegaard who signed long-term for the glitz and glamour of Real Madrid at a tender age and then got lost in a kaleidoscope of loan moves for a number of years.

Talent wins out at the end of the day, but a smart young player in this day and age can control their career in a way that wasn't previously considered.
 
r-u-s-x said:
Rumours are he has some sort of release clause with City that would support this case.
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Again...... How much for would aid or damage the credibility of such a rumour.......

(As per earlier in the discussion the Haaland/Raiola strategy was keep his trf fee as low as poss using clauses.......... If his clause is eg 100m now; there's no way it was the same or even more in 2019.)

r-u-s-x said:
Point being his transfer fee was 50m while the cost was probably 150m +. That's not reflected in the table
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Not disputed that (and certainly not 'defending' the spending of City! LOL)...... Just pointing out that wages and agent fees are a factor for every trf so it's a rapidly slippery slope to start factoring them into some club's net spend and not others.
 
FightingIllini said:
Not in a net spend table, no.

But it does count toward FFP, so it's not some shady under the table thing.

City didn't sign Haaland because they had some unique riches to do so, City signed Haaland because Haaland chose City and Pep as the next step in his career, he and his representatives have managed his development to give him that freedom of choice all along.

He'd have never dreamed of going to a mess like PSG. Bottomless resources is only one piece of the superclub puzzle.
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I agree with all that, I was only speaking about true cost of a transfer, haaland is a special case due to the way he set up his contract. Mbappe would be the same
 
r-u-s-x said:
I agree with all that, I was only speaking about true cost of a transfer, haaland is a special case due to the way he set up his contract. Mbappe would be the same
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Sure, though in some sense it's not that special of a case. An extreme case perhaps, but agents fees and the like are part of normal transfers too.

Net spend is a useful look at how a club is navigating the transfer market. But it doesn't correlate with success very well at all, unlike overall player expenditures.
 
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