I actually agree with you - and that is their mistake.
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Transfers Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)
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We're not competing with them now though, they have ramped up and we haven't. Why can't we be spending as they are?
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We can compete financially. We also compete with them on the pitch which is what really matters. Have you been watching football for the past decade?
So much r ecency bias.
Football results are volatile in the short term for everyone except Man City. That’s true for us, for Woolwich, Chelsea, Liverpool… everyone else.
Over the medium to long term though we have shown impressive performance relative to Woolwich. I’d rather be ahead of them for 6 seasons than 1 or 2.
-250m Net spend over 5 years is recency bias?
You are in denial.
This is where the conversation stops being intellectually honest because the people you are debating with will dispute this objective fact.
I'm talking about the present, they're competing with Manchester City and teams at the top, we're competing with Brentford and mid table teams. They are outspending us in the present transfer market.Aha, so in the medium to long term we've outperformed them, excellent!
Clearly they were well ahead of us last season - such are the ups and downs of football. After our best period this century, we made some mistakes - not strengthening in 2018 was a mistake, buying expensive flops like N'Dombele was a mistake, and recuiting two 'seriel winners' who turned out to be disasters was another mistake. What can i say, all management teams and scouts make mistakes, it's just regrettable that these 3 big ones all came so close together, understandably pissing off lots of fans. Thankfully more recently we seem to have been making more solid signings and have recruited a manager who seems more appropriate for the task. So let's not focus too much on the short-term, let's see where we are in a couple of years' time. That's my way of looking at it anyway - not saying it's the right way or the only way, but it is one valid way.
Why do you care so much about spending or net spend?
I’m genuinely curious. Is that what excited you about following football?
How does one work this out?
Is it because we've sold Kane? Are you going by Net Spend?
Does that mean that Brentford are more ambition than us going by net spend?
Not the conversation we are having.
And also the cue for me to stop talking to you. We both know there is nowhere else for this to go now and it's probably as boring and pointless for us both sameway.
I think shanchez is the only 1 player of ours a few clubs are interested in
As I say, for me your focus is too short-term. I prefer to take a wider and longer look at the medium term and beyond - I'm not going to knee-jerk over a single season when we've been better than them for so many recent seasons. It may well just be a blip. Ups and downs have always happened in football, its part and parcel of the game.
We can't sell Sanchez. He's the only competent back-up we have for Romero.
It means that are rivals who are no richer than we are, are outspending us and building a better squad.
We would then need 2 CB’s. Romero and VDV are the main ones and Sanchez can play high line so is our current back up.
Dier and Tanganga can’t do it. We need 4 CB’s so that would mean Romero, VDV, Tosin and then one other would have to come in.
What is that based on though, net spend?
Mmmm i suspect you inside source may be the same as mine...
Interest is likely related to the price being demanded in terms of transfers and wages.
It's mix of both issues depending on the individual player.
There is interest in Tanguy but will anyone pay his current wages?
There is interest in Rguillon but will anyone pay what Levy wants?
There is interest in Hojberg but again not at the price point the club is demanding.
But there isn't a valid reason why they are outspendng us this transfer window We still need another CB and a CF, Levy is dithering over biding £30M on Orban.
We might be relying on Richarlison as our CF this season, does that make you feel comfident? It's obvious we need another CB, ie Romero was taken off because of a head injury in the first game of the season.
That absolutely was the conversation. It was a discussion around what constitutes success.
scarletjim
made his point about success being measured over the medium to long term relative to resources and you never really considered that point of view and then tried to shift discussion to be about net spend and not actual football performance.You’ll get far more from conversations in future if you seriously consider other peoples point of view instead of sticking to your own agenda.