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Just over a week to go, we don’t seem to be able to ship any and the manager has been clear that we need to do that in order to bring players in - from a squad management perspective rather than financial.

I’m sure we will get nibbles next week but they better firm up to full blown bites otherwise what we’ve got now is what we will take into the season and our forwards look as sharp as a spoon

The last couple of summers we’ve managed to loan out our unwanted in the last couple of weeks of the window and I expect the same will happen this time around. Annoying as it’s just kicking the can down the road yet again and not bringing any fees in, but it is what I am expecting to happen.
 
For 50m I expect a somewhat finished product rather than potential.
Thing with Johnson is he’s not that different to Son but will never be as good as peak Son.

Current version of Son with some confidence is still better than Johnson’s ceiling.

For 50m surely the scouting can be a bit more imaginative?

If he’s really what Ange wants then fair enough but until that happens, Johnson is just an uninspiring rumour.
 
See that last sentence is where it’s not about balance at all and really comes off more like an attempt to manage people. Not saying it is but that’s how it comes off.

When you go about using negative language about people, implying they are unreasonable, emotional, irrational, foolish, stupid, conspiracy theorists etc etc because they don’t post the way you want them to, you aren’t about balance, you are about attempting to condition them out of posting things you don’t like. It’s a passive aggressive attempt at enforcement.

Look, fair - I should have put it a different way - if we don't get the players id like ill be disappointed but I'll still feel positive about the season and the project we are embarking on.
 
Crazy there's been 0 movement post Kane sale.

I wonder when it's acceptable to be concerned according to the forum police?

1 week before deadline day?
It's never acceptable

Go support City if you aren't happy

Fed up of all you grief monkeys and misery hounds

It's been a very good window


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And repeat "It's been a very good window"
 
Really makes the experience of coming on this place boring and a bit shit when the same gang of defenders fly out like ENIC white blood cells to a virus if you so much as criticize the club around transfers.

Apparently, you are allowed to say expensive transfers were badly scouted and that's the only acceptable criticism.

It's only really in this thread or the ENIC thread if you are crazy enough to go in there.

Extremely skewed and one-sided take you got there, fella.

I doubt you'll find a single poster that doesn't have concerns about our trf business in one capacity or another.

How those concerns in turn manifest is the root to your complaint here....... It needn't be a mystery...... It's been explained in good faith many many times but some people insist on melodrama and (politely) a fevered sense of imagination regardless...... And a significant degree of bad-faith debating at times too.

It's poignant you mention the ENIC thread cos far too much of the venting that goes on in this thread would be far better off in there..... That way those that are sick and tired of that shit tainting every discussion can just avoid it...... And btw you might not have noticed but a lot if people (myself inc.) avoid that thread altogether in acceptance of it being such a space.
 
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Thing with Johnson is he’s not that different to Son but will never be as good as peak Son.

Current version of Son with some confidence is still better than Johnson’s ceiling.

For 50m surely the scouting can be a bit more imaginative?

If he’s really what Ange wants then fair enough but until that happens, Johnson is just an uninspiring rumour.
Does anyone believe we’ll spend that on him? Someone said 8 goals 38 games is a good return for a winger but I think we need at least double figures at worst for that position. We are goi g to create loads of chances this season and we need our wide guys to really contribute with goals because we don’t have a striker that can score 20 goals a season now.
 
See that last sentence is where it’s not about balance at all and really comes off more like an attempt to manage people. Not saying it is but that’s how it comes off.

When you go about using negative language about people, implying they are unreasonable, emotional, irrational, foolish, stupid, conspiracy theorists etc etc because they don’t post the way you want them to, you aren’t about balance, you are about attempting to condition them out of posting things you don’t like. It’s a passive aggressive attempt at enforcement.

Also, you do realise that the post I responded to you called a selection of the member of this board a 'gang of defenders' so while I do appreciate your feedback on my post, perhaps a bit of self awareness could go a long way
 
See that last sentence is where it’s not about balance at all and really comes off more like an attempt to manage people. Not saying it is but that’s how it comes off.

When you go about using negative language about people, implying they are unreasonable, emotional, irrational, foolish, stupid, conspiracy theorists etc etc because they don’t post the way you want them to, you aren’t about balance, you are about attempting to condition them out of posting things you don’t like. It’s a passive aggressive attempt at enforcement.

Re: "conspiracy" - would you prefer the terms 'made up shit' or 'fantasy'?
 
Look, fair - I should have put it a different way - if we don't get the players id like ill be disappointed but I'll still feel positive about the season and the project we are embarking on.
I will be largely positive too whilst knowing the squad depth isn't there.

Ange is making it much easier to enjoy Spurs again.

The frustration is that we've seen this movie Soooo many times.

A final sprinkling of ambition will really set us up for a great season. We could potentially win something!

But Levy will dither and not bring in the required quality.

A few weeks in, Romero goes down and we are back to Sanchez/Dier starting.

It just gets tiresome.
 
We have 18 games until the window opens. I would rather not panic buy and instead give our current group half a season

And therein lies the difference. One injury to Son or Rucharlison and we are in trouble.

The squad la ck goals. It's simply naive and dangerous not to see it and we lack cover, so whilst we can't just buy without moving players on, it is the least risky optipn by far.

We sold a 25 a season striker and have replaced him so far with zip. Danger signals right there.
 
Look, fair - I should have put it a different way - if we don't get the players id like ill be disappointed but I'll still feel positive about the season and the project we are embarking on.

Here’s the crazy thing. I agree with you. Even if I think the club would have let down another manager and the fans if that happens.

I’d still be positive about the season with these players and Ange. It is possible to observe our owners behaviour, criticise them, and still be positive about the team.
 
I will be largely positive too whilst knowing the squad depth isn't there.

Ange is making it much easier to enjoy Spurs again.

The frustration is that we've seen this movie Soooo many times.

A final sprinkling of ambition will really set us up for a great season. We could potentially win something!

But Levy will dither and not bring in the required quality.

A few weeks in, Romero goes down and we are back to Sanchez/Dier starting.

It just gets tiresome.
Exactly the way lots of people see it but don’t want to be accused of “throwing their toys out the pram”, or get called foolish, stupid, irrational etc for posting it.

Also tiresome
 
I will be largely positive too whilst knowing the squad depth isn't there.

Ange is making it much easier to enjoy Spurs again.

The frustration is that we've seen this movie Soooo many times.

A final sprinkling of ambition will really set us up for a great season. We could potentially win something!

But Levy will dither and not bring in the required quality.

A few weeks in, Romero goes down and we are back to Sanchez/Dier starting.

It just gets tiresome.

For sure - it is frustrating.

What are your expectations for the season?

For me - top six finish and a cup semi-final at least seem reasonable considering where we are today as a club.

It's a shame that is where we are but with a new manager, new players many of whom are quite young I think that is a pretty fair expectation. ANother CB and Forward won't increase my personal expectation but it will make me feel a bit more comfortable that we will reach it.
 
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