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Levy In or Levy Out

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MemphisWill said:
I think younger supporters simply have a less fanatic view on things. Probably a lot of reasons factoring into that.

Younger supporters have spent their entire lives with far more competition for their entertainment attention than just football.

They were probably toddlers the last time Spurs won even a LC and have never seen Spurs win a major trophy (last FA Cup in 91). If you were born in 2000, you're 23 and have seen us win 1 LC at age 8, lose 2 further finals, have one real crack at the league, and lose a CL final.

They almost certainly didn't "grow up on the terrace" as it were, as in the final years of WHL the wait list was so long even supporters with years and years of LPs were struggling to get tickets at times. And the costs are prohibitive for most working class kids to make a habit out of it.

This is quadruple for the kids that actually live in Tottenham, not a lot of locals getting in the stadium these days. So the younger supporters you have are more likely attached to the club through more tenuous links.

It's a different experience for them than it was for earlier generations. Spurs/football are part of their world, but less likely to be a massive part of that world.
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Very true & all good points. They seem to be more like casual fans of a lot of things, rather than hardcore fans of one or two things. They are a lot more fickle & less invested too. Probably matches their short attention span. Another big change with the kids is being a fan boy of a player rather than a club. Or supporting a big brand club like psg instead of a local team.
Also so rare to see kids playing football on the streets or down the park these days. That’s all we did back in the day but then as you pointed out, there was very little other forms of entertainment vying for our attention.
 
MemphisWill said:
This point rings hollow at the moment, as until this squad's 4 most expensive players all went out with injuries or a suspension, we were top of the league.

ENIC have spent significant money recently, it's just that none of it is currently on the pitch.

There's always some fair criticism to level at them, but this one isn't it at this moment.
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It becomes hollow when they actually give the fans something to hold on to.

Until then, it's the same pattern repeating over and over. Always a disaster, crisis, or some other perfectly reasonable excuse.
 
scott said:
Very true & all good points. They seem to be more like casual fans of a lot of things, rather than hardcore fans of one or two things. They are a lot more fickle & less invested too. Probably matches their short attention span. Another big change with the kids is being a fan boy of a player rather than a club. Or supporting a big brand club like psg instead of a local team.
Also so rare to see kids playing football on the streets or down the park these days. That’s all we did back in the day but then as you pointed out, there was very little other forms of entertainment vying for our attention.
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That's the tele effect, isn't it? You don't have to support your local club - you can't get into the stadium anyway and as you're sat at home you can watch any club around the world.
 
Joan Thomas said:
On the previous page he was telling everyone to "SHUT THE FUCK UP" about ENIC and Levy....... 🤷‍♀️




He hasn't stopped posting in the thread since

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He loves us. Something to moan & whinge about.
 
Richard Arlison said:
They aren't being fake, they have only known ENIC Spurs so this is what they think Spurs is.
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Younger fans are more likely to want ENIC out in my experience purely because a lot of them are fed up of being ribbed online by rival fans for not winning trophies, the older fans are normally the level headed ones mainly because they know where we came from pre ENIC.
 
MemphisWill said:
This point rings hollow at the moment, as until this squad's 4 most expensive players all went out with injuries or a suspension, we were top of the league.

ENIC have spent significant money recently, it's just that none of it is currently on the pitch.

There's always some fair criticism to level at them, but this one isn't it at this moment.
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Hmm. It was entirely foreseeable depth was obviously an issue with a coach so wedded to a style of play.
 
Richard Arlison said:
I think it makes very very little difference.

The protests in the stadium will have affected Levy. Not much but they will have affected him.

Reality is that the Premier League is foreign-owned now. Saudi/US/Asian consortium or Saudi's via US owners. The league isn't suitable for an ownership group with "English" in the name.

Levy gets the hate and frustration that people feel when they realize how pointless it is now to watch football on TV. The only enjoyable experience in football for fans of teams outside the elite is going to the game with your mates and feeling that sense of community.
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What protests in the stadium??
 
Shadydan said:
Younger fans are more likely to want ENIC out in my experience purely because a lot of them are fed up of being ribbed online by rival fans for not winning trophies, the older fans are normally the level headed ones mainly because they know where we came from pre ENIC.
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Pre ENIC we had the most FA Cups in English football.

ENIC didn't take us anywhere. Top 4 don't mean shit neither does getting to finals.

I don't think we are worse than before but we aren't better that we were before they arrived. We just have a nicer house. That house can be empty with 2 more bad seasons.
 
Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
Hmm. It was entirely foreseeable depth was obviously an issue with a coach so wedded to a style of play.
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Yeah they have to rub their asses off & be full blooded. You need a big squad to cope with that. Also I think only having 2 CBs is a big failure & left us short. No proper striker & back up creative midfielder a big risk too. Very generous towards enic/levy to say we couldn’t have been prepared for losing a CB. Nothing we could have done. We were asking for it in the summer.
 
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