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Player Rodrigo Bentancur

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If the game had been on Hackney marshs, Cash would have left in an ambulance .
Geezers a cunt woukd needs a season ending tackle.
 
FWIW here’s the link to the match thread at the time of the tackle.


Whilst there are lots of posts about Cash being a cunt and it being a bad tackle, not one poster in the immediate aftermath says it’s a red (one says Romero got sent off for less though).

This is how you know subsequent events have influenced perception of the tackle.

Anyway, back to work for me.


That was me. Was true then, still true now.

Red card all day. Referee failed in his responsibility to protect the players.

Anyone offering excuses for the tackle or lack of red card is in denial of the truth.
 
It isn’t meaningless.

The review of a foul is based on the foul alone, not the result, not the injury.

Which is what I've been saying (inc. to you) every step of the way.

It’s clear from reading the last few pages that both of those factors (plus the general poor refereeing decisions we’ve had recently) are affecting people’s assessment of the tackle.

That's not universally true at all.

FYI it was a Diaz goal.

Some Scouse git or another..... The point remains regardless. Dippers would have been less riled, but the ref decision would have been no less wrong.
 
Because the ball isn’t even in the vicinity.

The ball was significantly gone in the case of Rod/Cash too.

.....You were talking about the spirit and/application of the rules earlier; I know what one I'd rather our player had been subjected to and it wasn't the blatant hatchet job with the potential to seriously injure.
 
FWIW here’s the link to the match thread at the time of the tackle.


Whilst there are lots of posts about Cash being a cunt and it being a bad tackle, not one poster in the immediate aftermath says it’s a red (one says Romero got sent off for less though).

This is how you know subsequent events have influenced perception of the tackle.

Anyway, back to work for me.

I guess you didn't look very hard......

Romero got a red card for a foul far less worse than that.
Cash needs to get another yellow or a straight red.
Worse than Romero’s red. Intent to injure
The treatment of ours players is a fucking disgrace. Every game it happens.

...Probably others on evidence and of course not everyone posts in the match thread for every game.

- The first got 12 agrees. (Remember Romero's was all, but universally accepted to be a red.... Even if some insisted it was harsh)
- The last clearly thinks a yellow was insufficient.

You started off arguing that fans are only arguing cos of the outcome, but no result nor injury status was known at this time.
 
I guess you didn't look very hard......






...Probably others on evidence and of course not everyone posts in the match thread for every game.

- The first got 12 agrees. (Remember Romero's was all, but universally accepted to be a red.... Even if some insisted it was harsh)
- The last clearly thinks a yellow was insufficient.

You started off arguing that fans are only arguing cos of the outcome, but no result nor injury status was known at this time.
Literally none of those say it’s a red (other than the one that says “2nd yellow or red”). All they’re saying is it’s worse than Romero’s tackle - which is commentary on their view of his red, not the Cash tackle.

What are you talking about?! You’re tying yourself in knots mate. 😂😂😂
 
Literally none of those say it’s a red (other than the one that says “2nd yellow or red”. All they’re saying is it’s worse than Romero’s tackle.

What are you talking about?! 😂😂😂

I already explained sufficiently....

"Remember Romero's was all but universally accepted to be a red.... Even if some insisted it was harsh)"


If someone thinks Romero's was a red and thinks Cash's was worse ; then of course they think it should have been a red too... That's just basic fkn logic. 🙄
 
I already explained sufficiently....

"Remember Romero's was all but universally accepted to be a red.... Even if some insisted it was harsh)"


If someone thinks Romero's was a red and thinks Cash's was worse ; then of course they think it should have been a red too... That's just basic fkn logic. 🙄

A lot of the people you quoted didn’t think the Romero tackle was a red.
 
I already explained sufficiently....

"Remember Romero's was all but universally accepted to be a red.... Even if some insisted it was harsh)"


If someone thinks Romero's was a red and thinks Cash's was worse ; then of course they think it should have been a red too... That's just basic fkn logic. 🙄
One of the 2 quotes you provided that say it’s worse than Romero’s is from Richard Arlison. I post 5 times a year on here and even I know he was outraged at the Romero red.

So your evidence is:-

- One post that said it’s a red or a 2nd yellow.
- One post that said it’s worse than Romero’s (we don’t know if he thought that was even a red)
- One that said the treatment of our players is a disgrace.

Yeah you’ve really refuted my point there. 🙄

There were no huge calls for a red at the time of the tackle.

Just to be clear because this argument is descending into chaos…..

I’d really like refs to give red cards for the tackle Cash made. I’d like petulant, petty fouls like that to be appropriately punished because they’re cowardly and don’t really help with the progression of the game.

But similar to how I feel on handballs, it’s not about what I want or other posters in this forum want. The reality is that right now with the application of the rules, that tackle is not being given as a red in 999/1000 cases, and that’s my view from watching a hell of a lot of football.
 
You can quote the rule book all you want and I won’t dispute what you’re saying is written within that, but the application of any written laws are just as, if not more important than what’s on paper.

You will rarely find any tackles like Cash’s that result in red cards. I’d personally prefer they did, that’s just not how refs interpret and apply the law today.

He’s not out of control, it’s not studs up. The Romero VAR check before his red was worse, and that wasn’t given upon review.

If what we’re really striving for is consistency of refereeing there’s nothing wrong with Cash getting a yellow because that’s how the law is applied 99/100. If you look at, say, Son’s penalty against Brentford or Nketiah‘s challenge on Vicario, they’re cause for a lot more concern on refereeing standards and consistency.

If we won the game and Benta played on unhurt we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
I'm sorry but no. We are not looking for referees to consistently get their calls wrong, we want them consistently right by the laws of the game. I don't care if 99% of "Cash type tackles" only get a Yellow, all that means is that 99% are wrong.

It was, in your own words, "petulant and nasty." He's gone after the player which is violent conduct. The end result is irrelevant, it's the action that is punishable by the law.

That is the consistency that needs to be looked at, you can't just cherry pick certain fouls because they looked worse than others.

I'll apologise now if my post is coming over as particularly belligerent as I'm not feeling that way, but I'm struggling to see how this can be interpreted any other way.

The laws were changed for the sole reason of stopping this type of challenge, to protect players from being kicked out of games and, potentially, having careers jeopardised/ended by hatchet men, yet the rhetoric now seems to be that we don't want Red cards spoiling the "entertainment." I've lost count of the talking heads saying that we don't want to see multiple sendings off because it destroys the spectacle. What they fail to realise is that this would only be short term. Once the hatchet men realise they'll get a Red every time, they'll have to stop, then the spectacle is improved because you don't have your talented players ending up like Bentancur.
 
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