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Transfers January Transfer Thread 2024

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Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
You know none of that's conclusive. Listen to Elton John on his first marriage it’s enlightening .Paul O'grady had a daughter too. If it's and as you suggest a childish sense of humour then it's worse...because you start to board on some weird baked in homophobia.Its kind of barley understandable when you are a teenage boy but he's a big ass man. He should do better..It’s kind of why I stopped listening.
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Why would you say such if thing, if you have a child?

My eldest was taught about the internet, the first thing she did was “search mummy and daddy”…

(was delighted there is no trace of me to be found, except my website which doesn’t come up on searches but is written with my kids in mind)
 

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Not the first manager to say it, baldy has never relented on his bullshit. I'll be shocked if we have someone through the door in time for Burnley.

Will probably be like Porro all over again, where we huff and puff, and ultimately pay the asking price late in the window.

Actually he did it to Ange already with VDV, took it to the last few days of the window, and he ended up playing the first game of the season without having played any of the pre-season games.
 
KaneIsAble said:
So if Levy doesn't consistently back off when the price gets high, why is our record transfer so far below the rest of the big six, including chavs and arse who have had a similar or even lower revenue than us for several years? We're clearly choosing not to compete for players being sold at a certain price point.

Scum were supposedly in competition with City for Rice, and they ponied up the £100m required for the transfer. Do you see us paying such a large sum? The last time we did something like that for Ndombele, and it was only about £50m.
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I imagine it's probably because so many of our "big" transfers have ended up flopping. Then there's also the issue of what happens is that player you've paid a lot of money for gets injured. We're seeing that issue with Maddison, VDV and Bentancur (among others).

I imagine those factors play a role in how much money we're going to spend on a single player. They'd probably rather spread out the money over more players. Levy has shown from day one that he's risk averse, everything is either a sure-fire investment (stadium/wider development) or lower risk (lower price) investments. As spending has increased, he's had to change tact a a few times and often it hasn't worked out, so I imagine that's why we don't pay £100m for one player.

If you want world class players, you need to either pay the price or buy them when they're unpolished and develop them (which is what I think he wants us to do). It's frustrating to see sometimes but he's unlikely to ever change and I guess we've just got to hope he and the recruitment team keep doing the good work that they've done of the past two seasons.
 
yes said:
I imagine it's probably because so many of our "big" transfers have ended up flopping. Then there's also the issue of what happens is that player you've paid a lot of money for gets injured. We're seeing that issue with Maddison, VDV and Bentancur (among others).

I imagine those factors play a role in how much money we're going to spend on a single player. They'd probably rather spread out the money over more players. Levy has shown from day one that he's risk averse, everything is either a sure-fire investment (stadium/wider development) or lower risk (lower price) investments. As spending has increased, he's had to change tact a a few times and often it hasn't worked out, so I imagine that's why we don't pay £100m for one player.

If you want world class players, you need to either pay the price or buy them when they're unpolished and develop them (which is what I think he wants us to do). It's frustrating to see sometimes but he's unlikely to ever change and I guess we've just got to hope he and the recruitment team keep doing the good work that they've done of the past two seasons.
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Thank you! It's plain for all to see that Levy doesn't shop in the very top end of the transfer market.

I've also explained the reasoning behind that, like you've done in this post. I'm not asking us to break the bank willy nilly, but it's counter prodctive to just flat out exclude ourselves from making one of those transfer every now and then.

We backed out of signing Skiriar and Dias for Mourinho, and we paid the price with results when Rodon failed to make the grade. Similar stories with so many duds over the years. The lost revenue and loss in prestige has undone so much of what was built under Poch.
 
KaneIsAble said:
Thank you! It's plain for all to see that Levy doesn't shop in the very top end of the transfer market.

I've also explained the reasoning behind that, like you've done in this post. I'm not asking us to break the bank willy nilly, but it's counter prodctive to just flat out exclude ourselves from making one of those transfer every now and then.

We backed out of signing Skiriar and Dias for Mourinho, and we paid the price with results when Rodon failed to make the grade. Similar stories with so many duds over the years. The lost revenue and loss in prestige has undone so much of what was built under Poch.
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I've got to admit. Not signing Skriniar and Dias was so fucking frustrating/stupid/short-sighted.

Two areas that we desperately needed to strengthen, they seemed absolutely perfect and weren't going for crazy money.
 
yes said:
I've got to admit. Not signing Skriniar and Dias was so fucking frustrating/stupid/short-sighted.

Two areas that we desperately needed to strengthen, they seemed absolutely perfect and weren't going for crazy money.
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About £40-£50m IIRC. Nowhere near a record transfer fee for a CB, not even a lot more than Sanchez.

If Levy and the board believe a player is truly good enough to be a star for us for the next 5-10 years, he shouldn't back out over £5/£10m. If they don't believe the player is good enough, why the fuck are they even spending the whole transfer window chasing them?

If Levy is so scared of expensive transfers being flops he should fix the scouting and recuruitment departments, not pussy out on transfers.
 
KaneIsAble said:
So if Levy doesn't consistently back off when the price gets high, why is our record transfer so far below the rest of the big six, including chavs and arse who have had a similar or even lower revenue than us for several years? We're clearly choosing not to compete for players being sold at a certain price point.
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Well; up until a year ago it was more than obvious why the Chavs were outspending us...... Then they were magically allowed to write off 1.6bn in sports-washed debt during a shady, govt. massaged take-over which also made provision for the new (allegedly saudi-backed) dick head to blow another 1bn and YET despite such have STILL ended up in an FFP stranglehold. They now also face further charges for a history dirty deals too that allowed them to remain dining at the top table.

TL/DR? Comparing us to the Chavs is pretty much as futile as comparing them to us as comparing us to City....

Short answer to your question tho'... Up until recently we were significantly less rich than the other 5 (now 6). Now we're spending more and I expect that curve to continue.

Rather than me just answer all your questions like a performing monkey; can I get an answer to mine:

"We've reportedly spent the 4th most in the prem over the last 5 years despite being the 5th-6th/6th-7th richest club in the league (Subject to NC). Where do you insist we should be in that spending list in your instead?"
 
KaneIsAble said:
About £40-£50m IIRC. Nowhere near a record transfer fee for a CB, not even a lot more than Sanchez.

If Levy and the board believe a player is truly good enough to be a star for us for the next 5-10 years, he shouldn't back out over £5/£10m. If they don't believe the player is good enough, why the fuck are they even spending the whole transfer window chasing them?

If Levy is so scared of expensive transfers being flops he should fix the scouting and recuruitment departments, not pussy out on transfers.
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Has this post been saved in your drafts for 3 years or something?
 
Airfixx said:
"We've reportedly spent the 4th most in the prem over the last 5 years despite being the 5th-6th/6th-7th richest club in the league (Subject to NC). Where do you insist we should be in that spending list in your instead?"
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Did I say our net spend was low? You're the only trying to argue against a straw man. I've already explained my views in the previous posts.

So if you don't want to engage in good faith conversation, fuck off.
 
KaneIsAble said:
About £40-£50m IIRC. Nowhere near a record transfer fee for a CB, not even a lot more than Sanchez.

If Levy and the board believe a player is truly good enough to be a star for us for the next 5-10 years, he shouldn't back out over £5/£10m. If they don't believe the player is good enough, why the fuck are they even spending the whole transfer window chasing them?

If Levy is so scared of expensive transfers being flops he should fix the scouting and recuruitment departments, not pussy out on transfers.
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Agreed. Although I do think that our recruitment is in the best place it has ever been in.

Udogie, VDV, Bentancur, Maddison, Sarr, Vicario, Kulusevski and Romero have all been excellent signings. If we come out of next Summer's transfer window with another 5/6 players of that ilk that I'll be happy.

I think the January window will give us the answer of where Levy is at. I don't think we have ever been as desperate for reinforcements in a January window before. If he isn't going to pull the trigger now, I doubt he ever will.
 
MVP said:
I'd rather take a chance on him for 15m, than Toney or Solanke for 70m.
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If we’ve watched enough and want him, then he’s a no brainer.

In the context of Liverpool, for me they are no great shakes at all, but have Salah, Nunez, Diaz, Jota and the lanky one, which wins them loads of points, as they constantly are able to bring fresh legs on second half.

If we get a £15m striker capable of being third choice (behind Son and Richarlison), then we can loan Veliz to develop, plus is shouldn’t stop us getting a CB and CM. People want a LWF (so do I ideally) but the best talents seem £30m odd and look like they’d need a season, whereas both Son and Richarlison has shown decent under Ange out there (pushing the position down my desired list).
 
KaneIsAble said:
Did I say our net spend was low? You're the only trying to argue against a straw man. I've already explained my views in the previous posts.
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(BS. You're the one piling every subsequent reply with utterings of "so what you're saying is"-isms and further new leading questions; not me.....)

Treat it as an isolated question asked out of basic interest if it offends you any less........

Either way; it's fair question to ask and not worthy of your hostility. The basic premise of spending bigger fees obv. increases overall spend.......... (Pretty sure you're not mathematically challenged enough to think otherwise.)

KaneIsAble said:
So if you don't want to engage in good faith conversation, fuck off.
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Drop the angry man bollocks... If you can't remain civil then you're the one that can "fuck off".
 
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