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Transfers January Transfer Thread 2024
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Sure he was involved in the Vic deal but this is a new era, with a new DOF. Why does Paratici automatically get credit if we sign Dragusin ? Maybe it's Lange that identified him and is heavily involved, he is the DOF.
Paraciti lives and breathes Italian football - that's why we got Udogie for circa £16m and one year later he's probably one of the best LB's in the world. Plus bringing players such as Romero, Bentancur, Kulusevski and Vicario to Spurs from Italian league - the last player Spurs previously brought from that league was Nicolas Berti a decade or so ago.
Sure Lange will have his own contacts across europe, but when it comes to Italy, Paraciti is perhaps the best associated with a PL club, so odds on any player from Italian league coming to Spurs involves Paraciti involved in identifying the players as a minimum.
3 at the least, and if we get a few youngsters who we've been linked and loan them back to get a deal done that would be great.
No one in this forum can say for sure how much of a role Paratici would have played in case Spurs do sign Dragusin but it could have something to do with that fact that Paratici was part of signing Dragusin for Juventus, so he knows Dragusin as a player and person.
And even in the new era Paratici still has a consulting role at Spurs (because that's all he's allowed to).
That would be guess work at the moment but that's what people are going to think when he is kept on as a consultant. There is no reason why Lange wouldn't know about him and have great contacts in Italy but he'll never get credit it for it as long as Paratici is around.
Gibbs White would cost an arm and a leg, forget that.
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Tottenham Hotspur "watched" Nottingham Forest forward Morgan Gibbs-White during the thrilling victory over Manchester United at the City Ground.
The north London club had a scout present as Forest beat United 2-1 on Saturday evening. Gibbs-White scored the winning goal on the night and earned praise from Martin Keown on Match of the Day.
He was the man Tottenham were watching during the game, according to the Daily Mail, just a few hours before the January transfer window opens.
The report also notes that Gibbs-White is one of a number of players Spurs 'like' and are considering moves for. Forest target Radu Dragusin is also named, and Tottenham have reportedly stolen a march for his signature.
Spurs scout 'watched' Morgan Gibbs-White as Forest beat Man Utd
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Tottenham Hotspur "watched" Nottingham Forest forward Morgan Gibbs-White during the thrilling victory over Manchester United at the City Ground.
The north London club had a scout present as Forest beat United 2-1 on Saturday evening. Gibbs-White scored the winning goal on the night and earned praise from Martin Keown on Match of the Day.
He was the man Tottenham were watching during the game, according to the Daily Mail, just a few hours before the January transfer window opens.
The report also notes that Gibbs-White is one of a number of players Spurs 'like' and are considering moves for. Forest target Radu Dragusin is also named, and Tottenham have reportedly stolen a march for his signature.
Apart from 1 season at Wolves (back in 2012-13) Lange worked for 2 Danish clubs, FK København & Lyngby; and neither of those clubs did business in Italia. Their markets were elsewhere; while Paratici's always been dealing with and for clubs in Italia.
They want us to lower the price and even after that option to buy as well, shows they are not serious, jokers.
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TMW have now relayed the same information regarding Tottenham’s demands but they allege that it is not just the structure of the deal that is an issue for Juventus but also the transfer fee.
The report says Spurs’ £26m asking price is ‘too high’ for the Serie A club, who face a ‘uphill road’ in agreeing a deal for the Dane.
The outlet explains that Hojbjerg is keen on a ‘change of scenery’ and that Ange Postecoglou ‘could indeed give his blessing’ for the transfer.
However, the deal remains a ‘difficult’ mission for the Old Lady and might not be possible unless Spurs are willing to accept an option to buy rather than an obligation while also lowering their asking price.
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I do think Tottenham would relax their demands for Hojbjerg if they can get another midfielder through the door first. Conor Gallagher will likely be the player that the Lilywhites prioritise over the coming weeks.
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TuttoMercatoWeb have claimed that Juventus have a lot of work to do if they are to land Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg as the Serie A club do not...
The report says Spurs’ £26m asking price is ‘too high’ for the Serie A club, who face a ‘uphill road’ in agreeing a deal for the Dane.
The outlet explains that Hojbjerg is keen on a ‘change of scenery’ and that Ange Postecoglou ‘could indeed give his blessing’ for the transfer.
However, the deal remains a ‘difficult’ mission for the Old Lady and might not be possible unless Spurs are willing to accept an option to buy rather than an obligation while also lowering their asking price.
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I do think Tottenham would relax their demands for Hojbjerg if they can get another midfielder through the door first. Conor Gallagher will likely be the player that the Lilywhites prioritise over the coming weeks.
Being DoF or any other manager in any business does not make them expert on everything they manage.
Its absolutely usual to find that a manager has on their team a person why knows a lot more than them about a particular market etc, that's how business works.
The skill of the DoF or other manager is bringing all the people with relevant experience together to get the best results - in this case its one person (Paraciti) bringing his knowledge to bear to identify players in Italian market (especially since he signed the player before for Juventus). When Paraciti was in charge he had 3 or 4 other top recruitment guys working for him who also had expertise in various groups of players - that's how business works.
And by the way its VERY unusual for one person to be solely responsible for any and all transactions, its usually multiple people.
As an example David Pleat scouted Son 2 or 3 years before he signed for Spurs - but quite a few people involved in his scouting and signing - including for example Levy agreeing to release Son to go to Asian Games (not a compulsory release by the club) as Son wanted to go to Asian Games but his previous club had refused - why did Son want that ? In South Korea winning the Asian Games gave all the players dispensation from military call up - so once signed Son captained South Korea to win the Asian Games (first time in years) and got out of a 2 year military call up which would have meant not playing football from 28 to 30 ...... so no multi million salary in that time period. All this should tell you that signing players in a TEAM effort with a number of people contributing their expertise to get a deal done - so in signing the Romanian defender (if we do) Lange will be part of the team but so will others !
I mean if people start thinking that way Lange will never get any credit for signing players outside Denmark.
When Paratici was in charge he was getting credit for his signings not his team, in fact we sacked Gabbanini even though he was involved in our successful deals. I'm assuming right now and rightly so imo, that Lange is in charge of recruitment and will carry the can if signings don't work out, not Paratici.
Lange certainly knows the Skandinavian market very well, and I would guess Easter Europe. And in time he'll get to know other "markets" as well.
As long as Spurs get the "right" players I doubt he'll care who gets the credit. As his task not just signing new players but to overseas many aspects of the club.
So why do you think Spurs are keeping Paratici as an consultant if Lange is going to ignore him just to get the credit for signing his "own" players?
Nobody would like someone else getting the credit for the job that they are doing.
It's not necessarily about Lange ignoring him to buy his own players, I'm just challenging this automatic assumption that all players with Italian connection comes from consulting Paratici. I think we want to keep him as a consultant because once his ban is over and if Lange doesn't work out we have an automatic DOF ready to go.
As I've tried to explain to you, recruitment (and many other projects) are a TEAM exercise these days, not a 'top down' with a 'command structure' determining decisions (unless you are in Russia or many unreformed large organisations).
And that means many people can contribute vital expertise/knowledge to get projects such as transfers done. So now Lange can claim credit for involvement in most of Spurs transfers - even if he wasn't the prime mover.
The down side, as you rightly point out, is that he carries the can if too many transfers go wrong - fortunately under Paraciti the failure rate on transfers was much lower than might be expected (as we've all seen). So a tough yardstick to live up to
Paratici is a fixer, a closer. I don’t think he has personally identified players through scouting, data etc….