Can no-one in here see my point that we are inclined to get a squad only so far but then ultimately leave it short by not putting a few cherries on the cake?
This is the difference between us and big teams
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Transfers January Transfer Thread 2024
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Can no-one in here see my point that we are inclined to get a squad only so far but then ultimately leave it short by not putting a few cherries on the cake?
This is the difference between us and big teams
TBH I thought we were just all spitting bars...
Vomit on his sweater already, mom's spaghetti.
They guy has played 8 games for Leipzig this season, he’s their 4th choice striker by all accounts…
Look, I really hope that he does well and he provides adequate cover when Son is away etc, but it just seems like such a pointless, classic doing the bare minimum Levy signing.
And all the people shouting from the rooftops “Ange approved him so that’s good enough for meeeeee!!!!”
This is such a flawed take on signings such as this.
For almost any signing the club makes, you get the usual media mouthpiece with the “this was approved by *Manager X”
Now for people who are capable of reading between the lines, you must understand that if Levy goes, “Ange, we have naff all money to spend on an attacker, but we could do a loan deal for Timo Werner, that’s pretty much all we can do.”
So obviously Ange is going to approve signing Werner as opposed to no one at all especially considering the absentees we currently have.
We will have Werner, Son, Johnson, Solomon, Kulu, Richy, Gil, Veliz and Scarlett when everyone is fit and back off International duty, that's nine players for three positions.
Werner can play across the front three positions.
Who as immediate cover would you loan or buy, who would come to us and be prepared not to start every game?
Who would come to us with the aim of proving himself to his National manager as an option for the next European Championships?
This is the January transfer window where in the past we have not brought in a single player.
Now unplug Football Manager and let us all know?
If I was Bayern I would be going full Misery on his legs to make sure he doesn't pass the medical.
They will be weighing in risk. Every investment is a risk and the riskier the investment, the lower the price. Maybe they feel Dragusin has a 40% chance of reaching a top level and Badé has a 60% chance and that extra potential is worth paying 25m extra for.
Also we will have other priorities so maybe it’s Werner (clever) + Dragusin (clever) frees up money for Gallagher (big money). But if that doesn’t work out then it’s Werner (clever) + Badé (big money) means we only spend on a CM if we can get a good fee for Hojbjerg.
Lots of moving parts and tight judgement calls being made and most of it is invisible to us.
So why wouldn’t you just go straight to signing Bade if you think he had the higher % chance of being good and you are willing to pay for him?
It’s a BS link. Probably too pressure Genoa into accepting. They know Genoa are in a financial bind and it’s a game
Will be pleased to see Werner here.
Seems like a very low risk deal (financially) with a lot of potential.
Sure, potential is useless if it isn't realised, but he's shown that in the right team he can really perform.
Looks like he'll fit Ange's system quite well, so best of luck to him.
Seems like a very low risk deal (financially) with a lot of potential.
Sure, potential is useless if it isn't realised, but he's shown that in the right team he can really perform.
Looks like he'll fit Ange's system quite well, so best of luck to him.
What you’re saying is plausible but there are many plausible scenarios.
To answer your question… you’re weighing up the cost of the risk that they don’t become great. If you can buy a player with a 40% chance of becoming great for 20m then that might be better value than someone who has a 60% chance of become great at 50m. But if the 40% player becomes a 25-30m player then that might be a red line where we sink the money into the other player. These are delicate trade offs.
The other reason I already gave to you. Spend less on a CB means we can spend more on a CM but if Genoa are messing around then we give up on that plan and delay the CM until the summer and go for the easier but more expensive deal with Badé.
I have no idea if I’m right - no one does outside a very small group - but they’re all plausible.
January is a shit month for transfers so it was always unlikely we were going to commit to someone significant unless there was an obvious choice on the market. Keep saying that this month is a desperate or opportunist month so if you were expecting us to put big money down on a player or expected another club to part with a key player then I think you probably have to reassess and set your expectations a bit, it just generally rarely happens in Jan.
This signing has generated a whole load of noise for no reason because he's risk free, considering the only player we've been linked to is Jota I don't understand why folk are so underwhelmed, like who were you expecting to come in? It's a risk free option, better than having Gil and Solomon come off the bench and someone who cover Son better than Rich at least until he comes back - if he works out great that means we have a striker who can score in our side and can replace Rich, if not we send him back to Leipzig, win/win as far as I'm concerned.
But can you not see that there really aren’t any cherries available in January?
This is what we specialise in either over paying huge amounts for average players ( see Rich Johnson and a few others) or getting average to mediocre players on loan when we really need quality ( see Nelson zaha danjuma etc).
Mate; you lost this argument about 10 pages ago. Surely you don't want to have it all over again?
You want the cherries but the cake is still in the oven, chill.
On your list most of the players you mentioned weren't bought for the managers until latter windows, we're still reshaping the squad.
That shit you want to happen is more likely to come in Summer windows, just generally better to do business, more money going around, more teams open to selling etc...
He died spurs on tour and Ange management shows as well appear on we are Tottenham tv. Generally his ok , hates Enic, is part of the demos, never goes to home games afaik and lives in Toronto. Is he hard core ukip?
Us not buying Werner because he doesn't impress is not the worse case scenario for me, maybe it is for you.
I didn't say we demand them now.
I actually liked a post with werner signing tweet. Think it's a reasonable risk.
I just think its premature to say that the manager is being backed because we've signed a player from leipzig on loan for six months.
Thats what started this whole thread.
Probably. I wasn't suggesting that we intended to buy him, I was just answering the suggestion that we wouldn't pay that sort of money. We already have done, multiple times, yet the tired old "we won't pay that money" gets trotted out every time.
I'm not sure where this idea that we won't pay £20M for Dragusin comes from. The more reliable Tweeters are saying that we're just finalising the payment structure.
You know how Paratici operates, lots of smoke and mirrors.
'Til someone comes along on a mission and yells, "Bitch"
A visionary, vision is scary