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Transfers January Transfer Thread 2024

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nicoclaesen said:
The play very rarely goes through our centre forward. It will go into him when we are playing from deeper but generally Ange ‘s style is centre forward play between two centre backs and let the others build the play. At Celtic Kyogo would sometimes stand in an offside position(about 5 yards off) and disrupt the centre backs. They didn’t know whether to be brave and stay up or drop back. Either way it allows you to dictate the game from the midfield. If they stay up then it’s an easy pass to release the wide players who’d get in and cut back or cross for Kyogo who wouldn’t be offside if because he wasn’t involved and it’s second phase. It’s very clever.
If the centre backs do drop then you totally dominate the midfield because there’s more space for your inverted full backs to play. We haven’t perfected that yet but there’s signs it’s happening like richy’s goal against Everton and Bournemouth and also sonny’s v Liverpool. They are typical Ange goals and we’ll see an awful lot more of them in the coming months.
Going back to Werner,he’s the perfect striker for us to what Kyogo done for Celtic. He starts offside and too quick for defenders to recover. I can’t wait to see it more because he’s more suited to it than Richy.
It’s so important we get madders back because he will thread the passes for wide players to run onto which makes all this happen.
Sorry for the big spiel about this but this is how Ange wants his centre forward and teams to play.
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That may be so but then why does he set our team to play through the middle mostly. V Burnley we were playing almost within the 18 box width. Both wingers are inverted so never get to byline. If his style as you say then surely it would make sense to play bj right and Kulu left and get balls into the box early to Rich?
 
At least Timo might give us more than fucking Vinicius, but like him is still obviously unwanted by his actual club and has clearly been offered around for loan

He couldn't hit a bus with a milk bottle for the last few seasons like...sometimes I think ENIC never learn.
 
Spursidol said:
You've missed out one important piece of information - covid stopped any match day attendance (and attendant food and drink sales, merchandising etc) for about two years and likewise no 3rd party events, and PL agreed a deal deferring tv revenues etc

All these issues significantly reduced revenue causing Spurs to be loss making - and NOT generating funds.

Yet our squad had been run into the ground and was aging due to almost no recruitment of anyone but squad type players from 2016 -20 due to bad buying of players despite substantial spending (including record spends on at least 3 players)

So when Paraciti was hired to start rebuilding the squad in summer 2021 he had to find some deals to 'backload' expenditure - best known ones being Romero signed on loan before becoming permanent. Kulusevski on an 18 month loan before becoming permanent, Porro beiong bought on a loan with obligation to buy etc. This meant for example that the accounts show circa £115m needed to be paid in respect of players in year to June 2023 (even though most player contract transfer fees are paid over 5 years) .

So whilst Spurs finances are generally in good shape with low interest bonds with long term capital repayment of bonds (although first repayment in about 5 years time), not materially affecting cash flow as we only pay interest, reality is we have needed to be clever with the deals we do to get the quantity and quality of players we need all the way up to and including today.

But we've done pretty well over last 2 and a half years to bring in Vicario, Forster, Romero, Van de Ven, Udogie, Porro, Bentancur, Bissouma, Sarr, Maddison, Kulusevski, Richarlison, Johnson and others to build a decent first team (with existing players Son, Davies et al ) and rebuild the nucleus of a decent squad.

So Spurs financial state will be getting better year on year, and with that we will be able to complete the current squad rebuild before moving into the routine squad refresh.
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This explanation is spot on. If there was a follow button, I would follow you from now on.
 
Gazzapen said:
Take some time. There is an old Thread about Gil. Most were salivating at the Great player we bought for in the region of 21 million plus Eric Lamela. To be honest, he isn't even worth a straight swap with Lamela. He is just as injury prone and if the wind is above 10 knots, he's going to be blown over.
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I’ll take your Gill and Raise you a Porto and Udogie - Arguably the best Full back pairing in the league!
Not every signing is going to be a hit , but at least just lately we seem to be getting more Sarrs and Rodrigo’s than Ndombeles!
I’m sure people will come back and say “Brennan for £50 million” but he will come good
 
ThePreacher said:
I watched the Cup game again today (always take time to look at players without the ball second time around).

Bentancur is such an instrumental player, never wasteful, and always looking ahead of the game. And i think as influential as Madders.

I just can't see Ange not starting him moving forward, incredible player in attack or when defending.
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No that’s wrong , He is a Juve reject , a cheap Punt , Fabs was just doing his old club a favour by us taking their bench players!

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VonnegutBusy said:
Looking good if Werner and Dragu are wrapped up by Monday.

CB looking fine for Jan. Dragu and VDV in for United. Romero back in a couple weeks.

Werner providing much needed competition/cover while Son is away. I get the feeling he might surprise a few on here.

Also leaves the rest of the window to add something extra. Although tbh I don't see which position needs immediate strengthening.

I think the summer will be about adding a top class forward once we sort out the Gil, Solomon, Werner situation. Not clear if any of them make the cut and with Son getting on we need our next star attacker to emerge.

Probably also need better cover for Udogie. Otherwise we are in pretty good nick.
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Appare you we are looking at Cambiasso
 
Gazzapen said:
So you truly believe Werner is currently better than Richie.

Stop Bullshitting.

Do you think if they offered Ange, Werner or Toney, he'd choose Werner? It's not that we can't afford a 50 million STR, so why are you OK with someone who is a gamble?

This is classic Levy. We bought Gil because he was the next Lionel Messi.
Richie because he was the next Mo Salah,
Ndombele because he was the next Dembele,
Lo Celso because he was cheaper than Fernandes but equally good.
Djed Spence because he was the next England RB.

Wake Up stop being a puppet. We are getting a second rated player.
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Ah so you’re one of them… I get it.

Transfer goes wrong.. “classic Levy, so cheap”

Transfer goes right.. “Paratici is a genius”

Do you think Romano and Ornstein are lying when they say Ange requested Werner? Are they both being paid off by Levy to sell the idea?

As for your argument over transfers… you’ve suggested we’re cheap for not spending £50m on a striker, then used players who cost over £50m claiming they’re shit players… Top work boy scout.
 
If we manage to get Dragusin over the line next week we could be lining up with the following at Man Utd:

Vicario
Porro Dragusin VdV Udogie
Bentancur
Kulu Lo Celso
Johnson Richie Werner
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Considering everyone we have missing that's an outstanding first XI.
 
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Pathfinder said:
I won’t call Conte a “shite hire” considering the circumstances under which he was hired. Nuno was needed to be replaced urgently and L & L needed a head-coach who would immediately command the respect of key players, like Lloris (yes, he was still a key player then) Son and Kane, And that hire got Spurs into the CL.
Besides, it’s hard to succeed when 2 of the key-components of his system was not there: fast, skill-full attacking wing-backs. No, I am not a fan of his defensive tactics but that's another matter.
And for the first time (or maybe second time, as I presume Mourinho also told Levy a “few things”) Levy had a top head-coach telling him off and make it clear what it takes to create a top team.
Conte was a winner and he tolerated no nonsense – which he made clear right away by ditching players with the “wrong” attitude and letting the Spurs board know what it takes to be a winner. And the players with that same winner mentality, like Son & Kane, liked Conte’s and thrived under him (Kane stayed on an extra season at Spurs due to Conte). Conte wanted to expel or “exorcise” the “Spursy ghost” and a strong purging "remedy" was needed for that.
So I believe that Conte’s short presence at the club created in impact and awareness among L & L and the board members.
But Conte has an expiry date of around 2 seasons because it’s either his way or the highway.
And yes I am well aware of Conte’s draw-backs, which I won’t get into here, and I much rather have Angelos than Conte at Spurs.
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It was a shit hire because it was never gonna work in the long term, at the time we both needed each other, the only way we benefitted was by keeping Kane interested for another couple of seasons but that's it.
 
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