No that’s because Liverpool have ambition and will want a top manager.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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But they also have had a lot of time! Both there first seasons were very poor so we need time to see what works and what doesn’t
Postecoglous first 25 league games at Spurs :
14 wins
5 draws
6 losses
52 goals scored
38 conceded
5 cleansheets
1.88 PPG
Klopps first 25 league games at Liverpool:
12 wins
6 draws
7 losses
48 goals scored
33 goals conceded
7 cleansheets
1.68 PPG
Guardiolas first 25 league games at Man City:
16 wins
4 draws
5 losses
51 goals scored
29 goals conceded
6 cleansheets
2.08 PPG
Artetas first 25 league games at Woolwich:
12 wins
7 draws
6 losses
40 goals scored
26 goals conceded
9 cleansheets
1.72 PPG
If anything, we seem to be right on track.
Now let's hope that we can build the squad suited to Ange and his style. Like those above.
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Give him time. Got it wrong today, no doubt. I'm as frustrated as everyone, but at the end of the day this is the point of a rebuild. There are ups and there are downs.
Are we allowed to be sceptical? We haven’t played well for a long time and todays result has been coming for some time.
Overall Spurs have been lucky. 4th flattered them. Not for the first time this season Ive been decidedly unimpressed.
We let top spot slip. We’ve let top 4 slip. The way we are going we’ll let all of the European places slip. Not good enough. Not smart enough. Too one dimensional.
*not a dig at anyone in particular but how many more years do we keep arguing for trusting processes (myriad different managers) and providing ‘tools’ (there were at least 11 tools on the pitch today)?
Overall Spurs have been lucky. 4th flattered them. Not for the first time this season Ive been decidedly unimpressed.
We let top spot slip. We’ve let top 4 slip. The way we are going we’ll let all of the European places slip. Not good enough. Not smart enough. Too one dimensional.
*not a dig at anyone in particular but how many more years do we keep arguing for trusting processes (myriad different managers) and providing ‘tools’ (there were at least 11 tools on the pitch today)?
And the cups.
Do they?
I can’t remember either manager coming away from their core method of playing!
That’s how we ended up beating Citeh regularly.
I agree with Fulham. But facing a confident city team at any stage will most likely result in a loss.
Personally I think we’ve been a victim of our early success! Top of the league and was a Fantastic time to be a fan. This season was always going to be a struggle and had we not started as well as we did then this current ‘identity Crisis’ wouldn’t have been so hard to bear
No shots on target mate. We didn't even try.
Richard Arlison
got a lot of work to do and a lot of talk to back up before he starts waggling his arse at Liverpool my friendI love you, but never take sides against the family again.
It’s somewhat skewed by the fast start we made first 10 games when we conceded just 9 goals and amassed 26 points.
In the last 15 league games, we’ve conceded 29 goals ( just under 2 a game), kept just 1 clean sheet and amassed just 21 points out of 45. That’s essentially mid-table form over a run of 15 games stretching back to the start of November and the Chavs implosion which gets you 9th or 10th which realistically is what a lot of us expected pre-season.
Those 15 games are somewhat skewed by the fact for large parts of it we had no Romero, van de Ven, Maddison, Sarr, Bissouma, Son and whoever else has missed out through injuries and suspensions.
Or does that not feature in your narrative?
I really hate the scum club from derailing our form. I really hate them.
We've had almost everyone back for the last three or four and still been mostly wank.
We’ve had most of our missing personnel back for a few games now and there hasn’t been much of an upsurge in form or performance.
The two most urgent things that need to be addressed is how predicable we’ve become. There’s no Plan B. The defending on set pieces as well, which is just shocking.
Klopp changed his style dramatically. He stopped playing "heavy-metal" football, and started being a lot more controlled. That's how he won the Champions League for fucks sake.
He’s literally not even 1 year in.