Manager Ange Postecoglou

[ILSpur]

I don’t mind what Ange said at all. Now that it’s over it all feels awful dirty wanting them to get the win. It will feel 10,000x worse if they lose against the spammers though.

I get his anger and I get the digs other people are sticking in, but this is the culmination of pathetic 2024 performances and yet another year of absolutely nothing to celebrate. With nothing else to really shoot for this literally became just about the last thing we could get excited about.

 

[harry7]

The guys a fraud. Complete deflection. Blaming the fans like its their fault hes absolutely tanking and has been found out in this league. All talk. He had the easiest fixture run and wimpered out of all the cups and our form is dogshit. Completely surrendered the top 4 race. Both when Chelsea, Utd and newcastle have underperformed this season.

Sack the fooker. Iv never heard of a coach that doesnt defend set pieces. Where do we find these people?

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- First season.
- Lost Harry Kane.
- Dramatic change in formation and style
- New CB pairing
- New keeper
- New front 3

I'd say that finishing 5th and above Chelsea, Newcastle, United is quite impressive and probably exceeded expectations.

We didn't surrender top 4. We weren't good enough.

 

[DJ Check Complete]

Sadly there is so much competition in this league for 4th , let alone 1st, I highly doubt we will even be in the mix next year.

 

[rhenkt]

- First season.
- Lost Harry Kane.
- Dramatic change in formation and style
- New CB pairing
- New keeper
- New front 3

I'd say that finishing 5th and above Chelsea, Newcastle, United is quite impressive and probably exceeded expectations.

We didn't surrender top 4. We weren't good enough.

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Agree with everything you said, but I'd call it a surrender. Splitting hairs.

Villa only had 13!!!!! points in their last 10. It is utterly pathetic we weren't able to surpass them. If they reached 72 points or something then fair play for being better, but that's a surrender to me.

 

[bonaspur23]

Sadly there is so much competition in this league for 4th , let alone 1st, I highly doubt we will even be in the mix next year.

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I’ll be surprised if we compete for first at all in the next decade.

 

[thinktank]

Ange is the best thing about your club, the amount of fans saying 'do you know how bad it would be if they won the league, everyone would laugh at us' ... Because they aren't laughing now? Spurs haven't been the laughing stock of the league for years already? What are you worried about exactly?

but but they'll sing songs and it will hurt my fragile ego, grow up!

5th is an outrageously good result after losing Kane so late in the pre season, you blokes think you deserve more?

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Excuse me, cunt, do you think you could cry into this, before you go back to Woolwich Mania...

 

[thinktank]

View: https://x.com/thespursexpress/status/1790500533012213794?s=46&t=6hp9556H_GJ_LQNWePnt-g

Just hope our fans and most importantly the board realize this too

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That's fine, but he needs to wake tf up and stop taking us for mugs - literally throwing games with shit defending and rigid tactics, saying CL isn't important, then snidely accusing us of not wanting to win.

Absolutely fuck off.

I've overlooked a hell of a lot, as it's his first season, and have gone out of my way to defend him on here, but no fucking manager is coming here all fluffed up on themselves and disrespecting me, as a fan.

Rather than being offended, he should be fascinated why we think this way about that lot and promise himself he will look into it so he can learn more and get to understand us better.

 

[thinktank]

You really should. You’ve to put up with the accents and the smell, but the noise is spectacular.

I think he didn’t understand a fair whack of fans hate Woolwich more than love us. That’s not a dig, as the circumstances tonight make that plausible. But for one night, it’s been true. Hopefully back to normal in the morning.

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Just stop.

 

[Brooklyn]

The state of some of you.

Anyone who is #AngeOut is part of the problem.

Anyone who wasn't rooting for City today needs counseling.

And anyone who expected Ange and the players to say and do anything other than what they did--try 100% to win the game and express frustration at the loss--is not living in reality.

Today was a uniquely bizarre and uncomfortable day. That's why we are seeing and hearing these emotionally charged takes that are all over the place.

Just take a deep breath, root for City next week, and look forward to next year when we'll be in Europe and fighting for the PL title.

 

[Stateside Spur]

The state of some of you.

Anyone who is #AngeOut is part of the problem.

Anyone who wasn't rooting for City today needs counseling.

And anyone who expected Ange and the players to say and do anything other than what they did--try 100% to win the game and express frustration at the loss--is not living in reality.

Today was a uniquely bizarre and uncomfortable day. That's why we are seeing and hearing these emotionally charged takes that are all over the place.

Just take a deep breath, root for City next week, and look forward to next year when we'll be in Europe and fighting for the PL title.

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I think most of us would agree with your general premise but what’s fucked some of us off is that Ange didn’t just “try to 100% win the game and express frustration at the loss.”

He specifically targeted the fan base for being losers because we got placed in the most unenviable position in professional sport which was entirely his and his players’ fault. He needs to realise what this rivalry means to the fans who make up the club that employ him.

I still want the board to back him, I actually came away believing more in him as a manager today considering he actually tinkered his system. But don’t bite the hand that feeds you.

 

[Brooklyn]

I think most of us would agree with your general premise but what’s fucked some of us off is that Ange didn’t just “try to 100% win the game and express frustration at the loss.”

He specifically targeted the fan base for being losers because we got placed in the most unenviable position in professional sport which was entirely his and his players’ fault. He needs to realise what this rivalry means to the fans who make up the club that employ him.

I still want the board to back him, I actually came away believing more in him as a manager today considering he actually tinkered his system. But don’t bite the hand that feeds you.

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I'm gonna give him a pass on those comments and trust that 1) he was fed up with that one fan behind him who was shrieking at him all match to throw the game 2) he'll learn from it as he beds in at Tottenham (it's just been one year) and 3) today was a uniquely tortuous situation that comes along once in a... what's the saying... anyway yeah. I still look forward to the summer window and next year.

 

[yes]

He just doesn’t fucking get it. How fucking dare he point at the fans.

Winning against City wouldn’t have put CL qualification in our hands. Villa would still have only needed a point and as he puts it “we’re not a Champions League team” - so why is he that bothered that we lost a nothing game. What Woolwich winning the title would have meant would be months and months of misery and abuse from the most toxic, argumentative, facetious cesspit of a fanbase and after all this club has put us through over the years, this would have been breaking point for many.

We want to win every game. We want to see our team play well. We want to see us win silverware. But due to unforgivable performances from bottle job players, a coaching team thrown together from a fucking bargain bin and an arrogant manager who time after time, has failed to address the monumental flaws in his tactics and team selections this season has meant that we find ourselves playing for nothing of merit at the end of the season.

If he’s wanting to point the finger. Point it at himself. Point it at the players. Point it at the board. Not the fanbase who have been the victims of a chairman who treats the club as a spreadsheet, players who are all too happy to collect a paycheck instead of bleeding for the shirt on match days or an endless slew of managers who have failed to deliver.

 

[Kiro Kompiro]

I wonder if there's something more going on than just his issue with fans not wanting to hand Woolrich the title? By saying 48 hours it points to that, but then he talked about the foundation and having to reassess what he needs to do about things. There's nothing he can do about the fans, we think what we think. It's not like he can go out in the transfer window and get better fans. This is a manager who has been around football for all his life. He knows how fans feel about rivals and, more importantly, how they feel about their team whether the trophy cases are full or not. Why would you not listen to what fans were saying about the game in that context and just shrug it off and move on? And why say what he did about the last 15 years? It comes off like someone picking a fight, but with who? Going back through his career, Postecoglou has reacted with some heat when challenged. But who challenged him? The foundation remark makes me think he's had some issue with either team management or some players. There has to me more to the story than just fans having mixed feelings about one game.

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Because he's a professional who plays to win, has done everywhere he has coached.

What exactly did you expect-"Mate, I've decided to throw the game because the fans want us to lose to spite Woolwich". No self-respecting manager at any level of the game would do that.

That aside, he IS arrogant, he IS inflexibe, he has said in the Australian media he wants to be challenged by them about his tactics/ approach/ philosophy,/player selections and throws a tanty when they actually do! If you want to know why its because he has an ego the size of a planet, nothing more complicated that.

He talks about his past achievements because he feels he justify that he belongs at this level, because most many locals think he doesn't.

He doesn't actually have to do that, he doesn't have to justify his appointment, he's earned it--the guy belongs at this level, perhaps not with this group of players and maybe not this club, but he belongs, especially when compared to the numerous useless frauds that have been gifted their chance to coach here.

 

[Kiro Kompiro]

He understands rivalry just fine. Ever been to an old firm match? One team of cunts against another, but it’s a sight and sound to behold. Something everyone should witness at least once.

The rivalry there far exceeds ours, in every way.

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[Brooklyn]

He just doesn’t fucking get it. How fucking dare he point at the fans.

Winning against City wouldn’t have put CL qualification in our hands. Villa would still have only needed a point and as he puts it “we’re not a Champions League team” - so why is he that bothered that we lost a nothing game. What Woolwich winning the title would have meant would be months and months of misery and abuse from the most toxic, argumentative, facetious cesspit of a fanbase and after all this club has put us through over the years, this would have been breaking point for many.

We want to win every game. We want to see our team play well. We want to see us win silverware. But due to unforgivable performances from bottle job players, a coaching team thrown together from a fucking bargain bin and an arrogant manager who time after time, has failed to address the monumental flaws in his tactics and team selections this season has meant that we find ourselves playing for nothing of merit at the end of the season.

If he’s wanting to point the finger. Point it at himself. Point it at the players. Point it at the board. Not the fanbase who have been the victims of a chairman who treats the club as a spreadsheet, players who are all too happy to collect a paycheck instead of bleeding for the shirt on match days or an endless slew of managers who have failed to deliver.

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I really think you are focusing on the wrong things. He's taken responsibility after all the losses. He's put responsibility on the players. You and I are long time Spurs fans-- he has been Spurs for just one year, and he's all in but it's just a year. He's a modern professional manager; it's not 1950.

Let it go. Today, I mean. Focus on the facts that 1) Woolwich won NOTHING this year (barring cataclysm next weekend) and 2) we are in Europe for next year and we'll be challenging for the title playing attacking, daring football.

 

[Kiro Kompiro]

I've been a fan of Ange and thought he set the team up well today, however he needs to understand the rivalry more I think.

Football is very tribal, especially in this country. I'm glad we didn't 'throw' the game and we did have chances to get something.

Like has been mentioned, tonight was very much a one off match and hopefully won't happen ever again. We shouldn't really have ended up in this position anyway if we had made more of a fight in a couple of other matches before this game.

And another point, if he wanted to win that badly why did he put a 16 year old on with 10mins to go?!

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I can assure anyone that he understand football is tribal. The guy managed Celtic against Rangers for two seasons. He's Greek heritage and he would well know about the Olympic-Pana rivalry. Games where fans get killed, built on deep historical socio-economic ,class, religious and political divides. He well knows the tribalism of the game.

 

[dondo]

He’s got a bit of Jose and Conte in him. Always deflecting.

Whatever issues “inside or outside” of the club, we didn’t succeed for one reason only this season. Our defensive structure. And that’s on him.

Don’t mug off the fans repeatedly. I understand he’s a professional and wants to win every game, but stop acting like you know better than us. You don’t.

I give him until Xmas. We all would’ve taken 5th but not in this shambolic manner, on a decline since fall.

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He’s a bad loser always very prickly lately after a defeat not necessarily a bad thing but not right to have a dig at the fans.
I don’t ever want to see them win the league ever again and if that means I wanted us to lose today so be it.
Who the hell is he to tell me and the fans how to support MY club? Maybe he should have done some basics on the train pitch and we might not of been 0-3 down at HT with 3 terrible goals conceded in the NLD and we wouldn’t have been in this situation

 

[Brooklyn]

Im guessing you are not a local fan then. If you had to live in the same area as these pricks and the decades of joke and stick we would get if we handed them the title you would say that

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Wait… I think we are saying the same thing?

 

[Notabadsquad]

He just doesn’t fucking get it. How fucking dare he point at the fans.

Winning against City wouldn’t have put CL qualification in our hands. Villa would still have only needed a point and as he puts it “we’re not a Champions League team” - so why is he that bothered that we lost a nothing game. What Woolwich winning the title would have meant would be months and months of misery and abuse from the most toxic, argumentative, facetious cesspit of a fanbase and after all this club has put us through over the years, this would have been breaking point for many.

We want to win every game. We want to see our team play well. We want to see us win silverware. But due to unforgivable performances from bottle job players, a coaching team thrown together from a fucking bargain bin and an arrogant manager who time after time, has failed to address the monumental flaws in his tactics and team selections this season has meant that we find ourselves playing for nothing of merit at the end of the season.

If he’s wanting to point the finger. Point it at himself. Point it at the players. Point it at the board. Not the fanbase who have been the victims of a chairman who treats the club as a spreadsheet, players who are all too happy to collect a paycheck instead of bleeding for the shirt on match days or an endless slew of managers who have failed to deliver.

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Correct but the finger pointing is surely at him, his coaching team and the players. They left us in this horrendous position.

Never felt so unsettled by any match in my life. We would have forever been laughing stocks had we not lost. No hyperbole in that statement.

We beat Villa. He boasted.. We sank thereaftee like no one's business. Many of the fans stuck by him.

Gutless defeats when it mattered. None of this outcry then. The fans stuck by him.

And we get to a match which could have defined the next decade and we play like men possessed. Absolute crock of sh!t.

Play like yesterday every fcuking game then moan. Adapt to each match and then moan. Show that commitment every game then moan.

The bloke needs to retract part of what he said and say he was talking to the emotion.

Jamie Carragher and other pundits who get local rivalry said it and Poatecogkou still prattled on.

Weird. So fcuking weird.

Let's see when we concede first against Sheffield United.

 

[dondo]

Wait… I think we are saying the same thing?

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My bad just re read your post