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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
It's yes and no.
As long as they're building it and not ripping it apart, give them time.
If we're a fucking shambles next season time ain't gonna fix it.

Everyone will have different expectations of next season.
I guess individual starting points will dictate how people feel he’s performing as our manager.

What is a shambles to you? Relegation? Finish outside top 10? Outside top 6? Outside top 4?

Finish top 3 but playing like Ossie’s spurs high on drugs?
 
Everyone will have different expectations of next season.
I guess individual starting points will dictate how people feel he’s performing as our manager.

What is a shambles to you? Relegation? Finish outside top 10? Outside top 6? Outside top 4?

Finish top 3 but playing like Ossie’s spurs high on drugs?
I think Levy will be thinking top 6 is the minimum standard. But he won't wait until it's too late to do anything.

For me, I want some consistency that we lacked.
 
I despise how he handled the tail end of last season more then anything one of our ex managers have done in recent history.

Ridiculing the importance of defending set pieces and being a sarcy twat when questioned on it.

Ridiculing reporters and the fanbase who preferred we didn't win against City.

Allowing us to get absolutely battered by various teams with no changes to the system (or personal for the most part). Roll on City game and finally attempted numerous changes such was his desire to win that particular game.

Speaking in riddles after the game insinuating there were issues inside and outside the club.

Laughing at a reporter about reading and paying attention to social media only to state the following week that he cared what people were going to say on....social media.

Belittling the importance of mental health when one of his own players was going through mental health issues to the point he was talking about suicide.


You can tell a lot about how a human being behaves when things are not going their way and he absolutely failed that test with flying colours.
"Ridiculing reporters and the fanbase who preferred we didn't win against City"


Well that's not rocket science is it?

He has said on numerous occasions that he wants to instill a winning culture in the squad and the club.

So how would that sit if he signalled out that it was ok to not turn up to this or that game because us supporters demanded it??

Of course he had to say what he said. And i'm pretty sure he was aware of what we wanted that game!
 
"Ridiculing reporters and the fanbase who preferred we didn't win against City"


Well that's not rocket science is it?

He has said on numerous occasions that he wants to instill a winning culture in the squad and the club.

So how would that sit if he signalled out that it was ok to not turn up to this or that game because us supporters demanded it??

Of course he had to say what he said. And i'm pretty sure he was aware of what we wanted that game!
Nuance doesn't come into the equation where agendas are concerned.
 
Matt1882 Matt1882

Japanese players are notoriously reluctant to leave their homeland. Its only recently they have started to do it. But I'll put aside the quality of the Spanish squad versus the Japanese, and lets talk the managers:

You can be a loser and a disaster of a manager like Enrique was, but if you're European, and have a name as a player from a big European club, you're then in the mix to manage Spurs.

Who was Japan's manager? Don't know? Neither do I. That's the point-the Asian manager will not get the opportunity a Louis Enrique or a completely unproven one like Alonso will get.

As for Celtic, the trophies in the decade prior to Ange are the one's where Rangers were either not in the SPL, or without the funds to put out a competitive side.

Postecoglou has the second highest win % (73.45 versus O'Neill's 75.53 ) of ANY manager that managed for a full season, in Celtic's history and the second fewest number of games per trophy @ 22.6 games versus Lennon's 22 games per trophy.

I'm not a fanboit BTW, he has his flaws, who doesn't, but he can manage. Whether it works at Spurs, we'll find out

Fantastic post.
 
All I know is this, our form fell off a cliff towards the end of last season and unless our transfer business improves then I fully expect it will likely happen again.

Really is up to the club at this point.

unlikely that it will.

there's a bit of difference from ending the season with Newcastle , Chelsea , Woolwich, Burnley, Man city Liverpool and sheff

to

wolves, forest, Liverpool, west ham, palace, villa , Brighton as it will be over the same april/may this season.

although poor yes, it was an outrageously rare set of fixtures to occur all together
 
"Ridiculing reporters and the fanbase who preferred we didn't win against City"


Well that's not rocket science is it?

He has said on numerous occasions that he wants to instill a winning culture in the squad and the club.

So how would that sit if he signalled out that it was ok to not turn up to this or that game because us supporters demanded it??

Of course he had to say what he said. And i'm pretty sure he was aware of what we wanted that game!
Disagreeing is one thing but not being able to fathom/understand why a section of the fanbase would rather lose that particular game is like living in some fantasy world where emotion isn't reality.

He could have simply said he disagreed which he is absolutely entitled to do so but any other manager in that instance would have also added a bit about understanding why some fans would not want Gooner scum to win the league etc instead of making jokes about social media and jokes about walking through our trophy room and it being empty.

His delivery was all wrong and he himself later apologised.
 
unlikely that it will.

there's a bit of difference from ending the season with Newcastle , Chelsea , Woolwich, Burnley, Man city Liverpool and sheff

to

wolves, forest, Liverpool, west ham, palace, villa , Brighton as it will be over the same april/may this season.

although poor yes, it was an outrageously rare set of fixtures to occur all together
There is losing tough games and then there is the way we played against Fulham, Newcastle, Chelsea, Woolwich and Liverpool where we looked a weak minded shambles.

Having said i cant work out why this thread has continued all summer at the rate it has. I have my doubts about Postecoglou but we need to see how the season pans out now. Just have a horrible feeling he'll be yet another manager hung out to dry by a slow underwhelming transfer window.
 
There is losing tough games and then there is the way we played against Fulham, Newcastle, Chelsea, Woolwich and Liverpool where we looked a weak minded shambles.

Having said i cant work out why this thread has continued all summer at the rate it has. I have my doubts about Postecoglou but we need to see how the season pans out now. Just have a horrible feeling he'll be yet another manager hung out to dry by a slow underwhelming transfer window.

Relax, we have Timo up front :paraticiwink:
 
Matt1882 Matt1882

Japanese players are notoriously reluctant to leave their homeland. Its only recently they have started to do it. But I'll put aside the quality of the Spanish squad versus the Japanese, and lets talk the managers:

You can be a loser and a disaster of a manager like Enrique was, but if you're European, and have a name as a player from a big European club, you're then in the mix to manage Spurs.

Who was Japan's manager? Don't know? Neither do I. That's the point-the Asian manager will not get the opportunity a Louis Enrique or a completely unproven one like Alonso will get.

As for Celtic, the trophies in the decade prior to Ange are the one's where Rangers were either not in the SPL, or without the funds to put out a competitive side.

Postecoglou has the second highest win % (73.45 versus O'Neill's 75.53 ) of ANY manager that managed for a full season, in Celtic's history and the second fewest number of games per trophy @ 22.6 games versus Lennon's 22 games per trophy.

I'm not a fanboit BTW, he has his flaws, who doesn't, but he can manage. Whether it works at Spurs, we'll find out
" You can be a loser and a disaster of a manager like Enrique was, but if you're European, and have a name as a player from a big European club, you're then in the mix to manage Spurs."

A loser and a disaster who has a CL treble on his CV.

That's the point-the Asian manager will not get the opportunity a Louis Enrique or a completely unproven one like Alonso will get.
Are you surprised that world class player who has won everything there is to win in the game and was respected for his tactical nous and leadership as a player was given a chance as a manager in a big league but an unknown Japanese manager wouldn't be?
 
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