Yes, Danny Ings, that fills me with confidence about late buys
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Transfers Summer Transfer thread - 2024
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You seem like one of the most level headed and informed posters here but I’d love to know what you mean by ‘world class’.
Both KDB and Mo Salah were Prem flops when bought. The last ‘world class’ buy by any team was probably Casimero and look how that turned out.
Previously: Ronaldo(?), Varane, Silva. I dunno.
A couple of City signings: Villa, Silva, Toure but they needed them early to establish credibility.
Was Rodri considered world class when City signed him or potentially world-class?
Us: Klinsmann? BUT not really when you consider the circumstances of his signing and the fact that, once rehabilitated, he fucked off pronto.
(Some might say VdV).
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Can someone with photoshop skills post an image of Steve Hitchen with the lange mask taken off?
I agree doesn't happen to often in the prem like it does with Madrid, Barca, psg and Bayern .
Man u and city probably the only examples of a club that buys ready made big world class talents .
As for levy, we did pick up Romero, ndombele , bissouma, maddison, and porro who although not world class came with pretty big reps .
There's way bigger fish than us in terms of spending power and prestige so we're never gonna get a Williams, our strategy of gathering a lot of potential stars is mostly a sound one
There is an element of truth in some of this but
Do you consider VdV and Romero as second and third tier signings?
I would rather them than a varane or casimero who are supposedly world class prem ready players
The clubs policy is clearly to be signing top young talent
Vicario, Udogie, are these not top players ? Or is it that they’re not expensive enough or enough of a household name?
Agreed.
'World Class' is such a loose and meaningless term - firstly it is totally subjective, like everyone has different ideas of what a World Class player actually is and secondly it only becomes apparent that they are operating at a World Class level after they've signed for the club and after an initial period of sustained form, such a forced argument.
Danny Ings at that time was sought after by a lot of clubs, it was a coup for Villa.
It's not like it was last week...
Andy Booth
This is true for almost every club.
The only exceptions would be Real, Barca, PSG, Bayern, City (although they don’t spend on guys like Casimiro anymore) and United (when/if they fire on all cylinders).
Can’t see how. He’s not a journalist
We have plenty of money, I’m just pleased to cut our Opex costs on wages and see this lot exit
5/10
I think we could add that Liverpool bought players like Mane and Van Dijk knowing they were absolutely top tier premier league performers if not world class.
From time to time, you need to overpay on a huge fee to a club that doesn’t want to sell (for the right player). The signings you’ve mentioned are excellent, and should allow us to be agile and carefree every couple of years. 9’s are expensive
It gets mildly frustrating seeing this idea from Spurs fan that we "shouldn't panic" as there's over a month left in the window.
This is an idea that we were supposed to be growing out of as a club. We know the importance of pre season when it comes to integrating new signings and working on the squad for the coming season, and we have completely written that off. Trying to build a squad on the fly after the seasons started does not end well for the most part.
Don't forget what the manager said in June. Forget him toeing the line now and saying that he's calm.. In June, he was pretty clear that he wanted a few signings in before pre season, because he knows the importance of that time.
And for this idea that "they're not the ones delaying". This club, for the most part, has moved like death when it comes to doing business for as long as we can remember. Giving this club the benefit of the doubt is nothing more than blind faith.
This is an idea that we were supposed to be growing out of as a club. We know the importance of pre season when it comes to integrating new signings and working on the squad for the coming season, and we have completely written that off. Trying to build a squad on the fly after the seasons started does not end well for the most part.
Don't forget what the manager said in June. Forget him toeing the line now and saying that he's calm.. In June, he was pretty clear that he wanted a few signings in before pre season, because he knows the importance of that time.
And for this idea that "they're not the ones delaying". This club, for the most part, has moved like death when it comes to doing business for as long as we can remember. Giving this club the benefit of the doubt is nothing more than blind faith.
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Not exactly earth shattering news. Supposedly GLC has "fallen out" with Ange.
from Southampton? neither did anything in Europe, or on the world stage. I'd say that's just the equivalent of us taking Leicester's best player , or Forest's, Woolwich picking up rice. us hopefully picking up Eze, it just worked out really well at liverpool cementing them as world class while they were there rather than them being at that level before it
Really buying those kind of players is linked to wages, they can normally pay them a high salary...much higher than we can offer anyway.
The next best thing for us is to sign players with World Class or high potential which I think is what we are doing now anyway, taking the same route as Woolwich when they signed Rice and Saliba and Liverpool when they signed Van Dijk/Kounate and Allison. We seem to be shopping in and around that market now with Maddison, Romero,Udogie etc...
Even if you look on the face of it now, the new stars seem to be the younguns before they've reached WC status, look at Real's transfer strategy for the majority of their ins, PSG changed their strategy last Summer - Bayern now doing the same this Summer, it's almost as if clubs are starting to realise that you get more value out of young hungry players over the long term as opposed to trying to buy instant success i.e WC players for the short term.
He doesn't have a clue. Can't people see that he has no idea what is going on??
Why does it bother you?
