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Transfers Summer Transfer thread - 2024

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Jaynola said:
Who's the last truly world class player we signed?
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You seem like one of the most level headed and informed posters here but I’d love to know what you mean by ‘world class’.
Both KDB and Mo Salah were Prem flops when bought. The last ‘world class’ buy by any team was probably Casimero and look how that turned out.
Previously: Ronaldo(?), Varane, Silva. I dunno.

A couple of City signings: Villa, Silva, Toure but they needed them early to establish credibility.

Was Rodri considered world class when City signed him or potentially world-class?

Us: Klinsmann? BUT not really when you consider the circumstances of his signing and the fact that, once rehabilitated, he fucked off pronto.
(Some might say VdV).
 
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JackJones’Locker said:
You seem like one of the most level headed and informed posters here but I’d love to know what you mean by ‘world class’.
Both KDB and Mo Salah were Prem flops when bought. The last ‘world class’ buy by any team was probably Casimero and look how that turned out.
Previously: Ronaldo(?), Varane, Silva. I dunno.
A couple of City signings: Silva x 2.
Was Rodri considered world class when City signed him?

Us: Klinsmann? BUT not really when you consider the circumstances of his signing and the fact that, once rehabilitated, he fucked off pronto.
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I agree doesn't happen to often in the prem like it does with Madrid, Barca, psg and Bayern .

Man u and city probably the only examples of a club that buys ready made big world class talents .

As for levy, we did pick up Romero, ndombele , bissouma, maddison, and porro who although not world class came with pretty big reps .

There's way bigger fish than us in terms of spending power and prestige so we're never gonna get a Williams, our strategy of gathering a lot of potential stars is mostly a sound one
 
enfield1985 said:
Personally I don't think it is a ruse. I think it is Levy always thinks he can get a deal and then bauks because it is not the deal he is expecting so cannot take the risk. But it makes the talk of Spurs signing a top player non existent.

We will always sign the second/third tier player and be told to be happy about that is why we see everyone act like an Eze/Neto like signing would be some amazing signing.
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There is an element of truth in some of this but

Do you consider VdV and Romero as second and third tier signings?

I would rather them than a varane or casimero who are supposedly world class prem ready players

The clubs policy is clearly to be signing top young talent

Vicario, Udogie, are these not top players ? Or is it that they’re not expensive enough or enough of a household name?
 
JackJones’Locker said:
You seem like one of the most level headed and informed posters here but I’d love to know what you mean by ‘world class’.
Both KDB and Mo Salah were Prem flops when bought. The last ‘world class’ buy by any team was probably Casimero and look how that turned out.
Previously: Ronaldo(?), Varane, Silva. I dunno.
A couple of City signings: Silva x 2.
Was Rodri considered world class when City signed him?

Us: Klinsmann? BUT not really when you consider the circumstances of his signing and the fact that, once rehabilitated, he fucked off pronto.
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Agreed.

'World Class' is such a loose and meaningless term - firstly it is totally subjective, like everyone has different ideas of what a World Class player actually is and secondly it only becomes apparent that they are operating at a World Class level after they've signed for the club and after an initial period of sustained form, such a forced argument.
 
Shadydan said:
Agreed.

'World Class' is such a loose and meaningless term - firstly it is totally subjective, like everyone has different ideas of what a World Class player actually is and secondly it only becomes apparent that they are operating at a World Class level after they've signed for the club and after an initial period of sustained form, such a forced argument.
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This is true for almost every club.

The only exceptions would be Real, Barca, PSG, Bayern, City (although they don’t spend on guys like Casimiro anymore) and United (when/if they fire on all cylinders).
 
TheSpurEst said:
How has it been better than 2/10 ?

- Tanganga was released on free. He is 25 yo HG player that played 50 games for us. Other clubs sell such players for like 10 mi
- PEH loan with obligation to buy, but he really seemed like valuable property after Euros, yet we look to make like 12-15 mil for him ? Again less than I was expecting.
- Rodon deal was OK but not very good. He was in the end, nailed on starter for side that nearly got promoted. Also HG player, I could have seen us getting 4-6 mil more than we got.
- Gil is loaned again (!) not sold. Pointless yo-yo game, throwing away, taking back. Losing money and wasting time.
- Perisic, Ndombele and Sess released - well with them it was fully inevitable, I agree with that much

Regulion, Royal still here and with Royal we are looking at 10 mil loss (!) despite OK performances on EPL level.

All of it together is absolutely horrendous.

Outgoings on their own is max 1/10, if not 0.
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We have plenty of money, I’m just pleased to cut our Opex costs on wages and see this lot exit

5/10
 
Block252 said:
There is an element of truth in some of this but

Do you consider VdV and Romero as second and third tier signings?

I would rather them than a varane or casimero who are supposedly world class prem ready players

The clubs policy is clearly to be signing top young talent

Vicario, Udogie, are these not top players ? Or is it that they’re not expensive enough or enough of a household name?
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From time to time, you need to overpay on a huge fee to a club that doesn’t want to sell (for the right player). The signings you’ve mentioned are excellent, and should allow us to be agile and carefree every couple of years. 9’s are expensive
 
It gets mildly frustrating seeing this idea from Spurs fan that we "shouldn't panic" as there's over a month left in the window.

This is an idea that we were supposed to be growing out of as a club. We know the importance of pre season when it comes to integrating new signings and working on the squad for the coming season, and we have completely written that off. Trying to build a squad on the fly after the seasons started does not end well for the most part.

Don't forget what the manager said in June. Forget him toeing the line now and saying that he's calm.. In June, he was pretty clear that he wanted a few signings in before pre season, because he knows the importance of that time.

And for this idea that "they're not the ones delaying". This club, for the most part, has moved like death when it comes to doing business for as long as we can remember. Giving this club the benefit of the doubt is nothing more than blind faith.
 
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JackJones’Locker said:
I think we could add that Liverpool bought players like Mane and Van Dijk knowing they were absolutely top tier premier league performers if not world class.
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from Southampton? neither did anything in Europe, or on the world stage. I'd say that's just the equivalent of us taking Leicester's best player , or Forest's, Woolwich picking up rice. us hopefully picking up Eze, it just worked out really well at liverpool cementing them as world class while they were there rather than them being at that level before it
 
JackJones’Locker said:
This is true for almost every club.

The only exceptions would be Real, Barca, PSG, Bayern, City (although they don’t spend on guys like Casimiro anymore) and United (when/if they fire on all cylinders).
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Really buying those kind of players is linked to wages, they can normally pay them a high salary...much higher than we can offer anyway.

The next best thing for us is to sign players with World Class or high potential which I think is what we are doing now anyway, taking the same route as Woolwich when they signed Rice and Saliba and Liverpool when they signed Van Dijk/Kounate and Allison. We seem to be shopping in and around that market now with Maddison, Romero,Udogie etc...

Even if you look on the face of it now, the new stars seem to be the younguns before they've reached WC status, look at Real's transfer strategy for the majority of their ins, PSG changed their strategy last Summer - Bayern now doing the same this Summer, it's almost as if clubs are starting to realise that you get more value out of young hungry players over the long term as opposed to trying to buy instant success i.e WC players for the short term.
 
CerealMaterial said:
Isn’t he still on holiday?

A window of Toney and a winger who’s only fit to play half a season would hardly move the needle position wise.
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His agent isn’t though.

Eze would just need to agree terms with us. The rest is between clubs.

He’s too expensive. I’m not actually too concerned about Eze. I’m not sure he’s right for us. Lovely player to watch, but I don’t think he’s the missing piece.

Concerned about the overall quality in our front line. I don’t care what anyone says, an injury to Son and then out front like looks very average.
 
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