Are you implying he'd be sacked for losing 3 more games? Cause I really don't think he will, or that it will even be a real conversation.
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No , I'm not saying those three games, what I am saying is that, it's a results based business, and if the club drifts mid table or just below, things could change quickly.
Look at poch, I think the club was 14th in the table when he left, there is no way the club could allow that, and that could bring about change.
Nobody wants a change of manager but, since December results/performances have not been great, he will only get a certain amount of time to resolve this and turn these dominating performances into results.
It’s a clear no from me. I dislike Arteta and I would not want him as our manager even if we’d take him right now and if he was not been Assna manager.
No, you said you don’t like his football, his personality and his man management. Isn’t that what makes a football manager?
True, one was a complete novice, the other’s got over 20 years of managerial experience, no?
I think Postecoglou inherited every previous managers' teams. We didn’t build for one specific manager.
I’m not even sure what Woolwich board were thinking when they hired Arteta. The last thing you’d want as project manager is a novice. But luckily for them, he eventually did a decent job.
Postecoglou is a project manager, but you gotta expect more from him. Didn’t he bang his own drum a few weeks ago saying he usually wins things in his second season? Weren’t his fanboys telling all of us how things are gonna be amazing in the second season?
Poch was sacked after about a year of terrible results outside of the CL, and him being obviously drained and seemingly incapable of changing the the terrible fortunes of the club.
It would definitely be a conversation if we got beat by Coventry and lost to Scum + United (though the manner of the latter two defeats would be important).
I agree with this
I thought the aim was an unpopular opinion, think I landed it with the response
What a load of absolute nonsense.
People dislike Levy because he prioritises money and profit over winning and are fed up of being Woolwich and Chelsea's bitch for the last 25 years.
Maybe you don't fully understand the passion down there but believe me football in England is massively tribal and what you interprate as hate is actually a burning desire to see us finally start winning again.
To see us prioritise what matters to most Spurs fans and make an effort to invest in top drawer football players ahead of top line hotels
You may think this depressing , in your bubble, but I'll tell you what, I can think of nothing more depressing than a Spurs fan happy clapping through our horrendous, shocking run of form last season, 17 seasons with 0 trophies, and always looking for excuses, blaming other supporters and seemingly content with another 25 years of the same......and screaming for everyone to be patient when our patience is never, ever rewarded.
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Sorry about this post, just adding to John Thomas post
over last few years Levy has tried different manager/coach style
Poch did well for us (but I didn't like no other way to play system with him)
Jose a week before that chance to win something he gets the sack,
Conte another guy that has won stuff (yes I know most on here don't like these 2 managers)
Ange a guy that has won leagues (yes lesser leagues but he has won them)
To me the next thing is for Levy to move out or over and let a Football person run all the football side
Has Levy done a good job I'm not so sure
He is a control freak, because he wanted control of the studium build it got delayed remember he picked Sub contactors who spiked the cables for alarms etc
over last few years Levy has tried different manager/coach style
Poch did well for us (but I didn't like no other way to play system with him)
Jose a week before that chance to win something he gets the sack,
Conte another guy that has won stuff (yes I know most on here don't like these 2 managers)
Ange a guy that has won leagues (yes lesser leagues but he has won them)
To me the next thing is for Levy to move out or over and let a Football person run all the football side
Has Levy done a good job I'm not so sure
He is a control freak, because he wanted control of the studium build it got delayed remember he picked Sub contactors who spiked the cables for alarms etc
I said I don't like him. It doesn't mean I think he is shit at his job, just that I don't want him to be pur manager because I personally dislike him and he is a gooner.
Far as I can tell, we are still in all competitions mate so why not just give it a rest and stop complaining and being so negative. 3 games into the season and you're acting like this. It's weird bro.
There's a bit of a tricky aspect to this OP because though it is 3 games in - for most of this squad and the manager it is not, we're in a second season and there needs to be progression, there has been some but there is an element of 'same old, same old'.
It's way too early to say we're doomed or things will be wonderful, it's 3 games, the squad isn't quite at full strength, new players need to bed in and I'm not sure it's at full fitness yet either, so things will inevitably change.
At Newcastle, while it was a lot better than the last 2 visits, we should have won and the thing is a lot of other fans say to me 'well if VdV and Solanke were fit, we'd have won', I agree with this but what worries me is that if we don't have the fastest defender in the premier league and a recognised finisher, maybe Ange could have adapted the tactic to be a bit more pragmatic? We're not always going to be at full strength and let's be honest, we've conceded 3 goals this season so far, all of which have similarities to the kind of goals we conceded last season.
We're definitely controlling games but we're not dangerous enough at the front or tactically right at the back. You might argue that Newcastle were pragmatic and managed their tactics accordingly, they played badly and won, pretty sure even their fans would struggle to argue with that.
We're exciting to watch and it's good to see us varying our shots outside the box and control games but that has to end with viable chances. What is the point in dominating possession when it doesn't lead to more goals and it doesn't prevent from us conceding them?
I love that we're playing better football and I think Ange can take us there if the system clicks but for now I'm going to reserve judgement for a little longer.
It's way too early to say we're doomed or things will be wonderful, it's 3 games, the squad isn't quite at full strength, new players need to bed in and I'm not sure it's at full fitness yet either, so things will inevitably change.
At Newcastle, while it was a lot better than the last 2 visits, we should have won and the thing is a lot of other fans say to me 'well if VdV and Solanke were fit, we'd have won', I agree with this but what worries me is that if we don't have the fastest defender in the premier league and a recognised finisher, maybe Ange could have adapted the tactic to be a bit more pragmatic? We're not always going to be at full strength and let's be honest, we've conceded 3 goals this season so far, all of which have similarities to the kind of goals we conceded last season.
We're definitely controlling games but we're not dangerous enough at the front or tactically right at the back. You might argue that Newcastle were pragmatic and managed their tactics accordingly, they played badly and won, pretty sure even their fans would struggle to argue with that.
We're exciting to watch and it's good to see us varying our shots outside the box and control games but that has to end with viable chances. What is the point in dominating possession when it doesn't lead to more goals and it doesn't prevent from us conceding them?
I love that we're playing better football and I think Ange can take us there if the system clicks but for now I'm going to reserve judgement for a little longer.
As much as attacking the game and "not letting the other lot die of boredom" is woven into the folklore of our club, and appreciated by most Tottenham fans as a commitment to a way of playing, it feels like another aspect of those Spurs teams from the glory years has been forgotten. They absolutely hated losing games. Can't say too much if we're basing it purely on the first three games of this season but for Ange to succeed his team needs to show they consider losing games completely unacceptable.
Might seem a bit state the obvious but I don't see it from this Spurs team
Might seem a bit state the obvious but I don't see it from this Spurs team
Our performances have been the same for a while. Bro.
Yes they have.
Tell me you don't watch or understand football without telling me you don't watch and understand football.
Yeah excuse me, I’ll bow to the guru in football knowledge, Mr. Dudu.