Why shouldn't he be narky? She was effectively calling him a liar.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Why shouldn't he be narky? She was effectively calling him a liar.
No problem on that.
I’ve been dragged to that position. Not kicking and screaming, mind.
What gets me is I’m finding us such a frustrating watch at the moment, at least when we come up against the top half of the league.
I thought we might get some kamikaze football, loads of 4-3 type score lines - that seems to be how Angeball has worked up to now. I thought it might ultimately prove too naive for the prem and therefore unsuccessful, but at least it would be super entertaining. Instead we get possession and ping it around the opponents box for extended periods with very little actual threat or excitement. The bravery seems to be lacking, and I don’t know if that’s with the players or with Ange and his coaches ability to impart it to them.
Kane leaving has made a way bigger impact than most of us would care to admit. Our lack of true world class attackers is an issue but there are plenty of other teams in the top ten who don’t have this either, but are getting more success through being more flexible and pragmatic in their tactics (and frankly better at the dark arts). We can do all this too. We also need to become a team that actually tries to correct the errors that are consistently being made. And we should be able to do that without completely sacrificing our attacking style of play. Eg defend set pieces FFS. Ange urgently needs to show he can adapt now.
I thought we might get some kamikaze football, loads of 4-3 type score lines - that seems to be how Angeball has worked up to now. I thought it might ultimately prove too naive for the prem and therefore unsuccessful, but at least it would be super entertaining. Instead we get possession and ping it around the opponents box for extended periods with very little actual threat or excitement. The bravery seems to be lacking, and I don’t know if that’s with the players or with Ange and his coaches ability to impart it to them.
Kane leaving has made a way bigger impact than most of us would care to admit. Our lack of true world class attackers is an issue but there are plenty of other teams in the top ten who don’t have this either, but are getting more success through being more flexible and pragmatic in their tactics (and frankly better at the dark arts). We can do all this too. We also need to become a team that actually tries to correct the errors that are consistently being made. And we should be able to do that without completely sacrificing our attacking style of play. Eg defend set pieces FFS. Ange urgently needs to show he can adapt now.
I woke up and thought about the defeat against the pack!
Maybe I'm completely wrong? Maybe I'm just in the minority?
Nevertheless, I want to express my opinion of the manager here.
I think that the team plays more attractive football than under many managers before.
It probably takes (a little more) time to switch from pressing to possession football?!
Personally, I like high pressing better, but that means (if I'm judging correctly) that all players have to run a lot.
"Our" manager - assuming I've understood correctly - doesn't want to deviate from his system.
That means possession football. But this possession football of "ours" is too slow for me.
A constant midfield game (the opponent's goal is further forward!), it gives us a high percentage of possession, but little else.
Since I have the impression that Ange really wants to stick to this system, he either has to get the team into this system soon or it will take too long and the coach will be shaky. That would be another "success point" from the owner's many coaching changes?!
I hope that our downward spiral will soon come to an end - and if possible permanently, because we have plenty of good players.
Maybe I'm completely wrong? Maybe I'm just in the minority?
Nevertheless, I want to express my opinion of the manager here.
I think that the team plays more attractive football than under many managers before.
It probably takes (a little more) time to switch from pressing to possession football?!
Personally, I like high pressing better, but that means (if I'm judging correctly) that all players have to run a lot.
"Our" manager - assuming I've understood correctly - doesn't want to deviate from his system.
That means possession football. But this possession football of "ours" is too slow for me.
A constant midfield game (the opponent's goal is further forward!), it gives us a high percentage of possession, but little else.
Since I have the impression that Ange really wants to stick to this system, he either has to get the team into this system soon or it will take too long and the coach will be shaky. That would be another "success point" from the owner's many coaching changes?!
I hope that our downward spiral will soon come to an end - and if possible permanently, because we have plenty of good players.
I think we could easily lose to Brentford on Saturday, especially if Wissa is playing. They attack fast on the counter and hit it long into the spaces behind the fullbacks where we struggle. Frank is no mug. It wouldnt shock me, let's put it that way.
You have managed to completely misunderstand everything I've said. congratulations.
We were promised Ozzie 2 but we got AVB 2 will end up being the (Sky Sports) analysis.
It’s rubbish. No decent manager leaves set pieces so unprepared for.
I thought that. She also unnecessarily extended her question after she appeared to have finished. It would annoy me.
You have that 100% mixed up in my view.
But before I go deeper, I just wanted to say that I've read last few pages and I've enjoyed your argumentation on why you have strong trust in Ange. I can respect that!
But the way you phrased in the post you quoted makes it sound like scoring / executing chances is something external and a thing we cannot change. Something that magically is there or isn't.
I disagree with that part. If our players have more room, it actually gives them more time to find a solution and thus our finishing would automatically improve. It is not as black-and-white to compare just our current style of play and "counter-attacks". We could also play very similar to how we play now, just when we are in a position in which we can either chose to try to beat opposition player 1-vs-1 or play a one-touch pass to teammate in space OR slow down the tempo, take an extra touch and then pass it sideways or backwards.
We almost always pick the latter option. Which gives lot of time for opposition lines to get fully set.
Another point regarding being clinical is using players we have in best possible way. There you rightly pointed out Kane-Son duo. Which is absolutely best way to utilize player like Son - centrally, on the shoulder of targetman-like ST. And now we have it in form of Solanke. So why not try to play to Son best attributes instead of forcing him to totally unsuited role? I do not understand that to slightest.
To me saying "give some time" when there are in fact systematical and serious obstacles like that is not adequate solution. You don't "give some time" while headbutting into brickwall, do you? You should find alternative ways to get through it.
Not just a bad start mate, also a bad finish to the end of last season as well.
People can dress it up but, we are seeing much of the same problems that, the manager refuses to acknowledge, he is heading for an early bath unfortunately.
So......are we not worried about Liverpool poaching him anymore now then?...
Yep, I've formulated this after defeat to Newcastle - we play defensive football, just that our defending takes place in horseshoe fashion around opposition 16-yard-box. We first and foremost make sure we don't lose the ball, cause conciously or subconciously we are aware that whenever we lose the ball, there are massive gaps behind our lines to exploit.
I am not saying we should run towards oppo goal with eyes closed. But there are moments in every game where we could in fact attack opposition defense that is out of their positions, but we chose not to.
I heard response that "This is awful take on the way we play. This moving ball from side to side creates space." which kinda made me laugh. Where is this space then? Where was it yesterday. it actually results in direct opposite - if ball moves from one wing to another with 4 passes and all players taking minimal 3 touches - it actually allows PERFECT defensive positioning which in turn takes all the room from key areas from our attackers...
We saw a wee bit of Plan B which seemed to be stick Romero up front for a while.
Impressive tactics.
Clearly destined for CitySo......are we not worried about Liverpool poaching him anymore now then?...
Natural successor to Pep
I think that's more Romero going walkabout. I'm not sure that's Ange. Even yesterday Romero was almost the furthest forward in one of our final attacks but nobody was anywhere near being useful to him and we just recycled the ball.
Unless I'm massively missing "Angeball", it's supposed to overload and overwhelm. We aren't seeing that. Just lots of the ball that we pass around the middle halves of the pitch.
I said last season we should have sacked him in the summer. It was clear the direction of travel, we were getting worse and worse. I genuinely can't believe anyone can be still behind Ange. The guy is an absolute fraud. Name me one player who Ange is getting a tune out of? Forget tactics for a second, which he is terrible at by the way, and name me one player who is performing well under Ange? The concensus seems to be we have an average squad, where as I think it's Ange who is making it average.
Son? Maybe he's too old now but is Ange getting the best out of him? What's happened to Maddison? Do you remember how good bentancur and Kulu were under Conte? Romero world class for Argentina but a clown under Ange? Porro and Udogie? when was the last time they played well? Does the inverted fullback role actually suit them? No. Is Johnson really as bad as he looks under Ange? for Forest he was better.
Does anyone seriously think a manager like Areola wouldn't do a better job with this squad? Look at what Emery is doing with a quite average Villa squad let's be honest. We would be so much better under a competent coach.
Honestly we are so so bad under Ange is isn't funny. I can't believe the cult he has following him and why there isn't more pressure on him.
He needs to go. At this point his sacking is inevitable. Some of us are more clued up and saw it coming from a mile off. All this talk about just give a manager time and all will be ok is just delusional bollocks. Persisting with a clown in charge is not a wise strategy, it's stupid.
I'm sick of his arrogance in interviews, after he looks gormless all match on the touchline. Just because Arteta turned out good for Woolwich, it doesn't mean Ange is. It's clear now that Arteta is a very special coach, they had constant improvement. Ange is a pretender.
Son? Maybe he's too old now but is Ange getting the best out of him? What's happened to Maddison? Do you remember how good bentancur and Kulu were under Conte? Romero world class for Argentina but a clown under Ange? Porro and Udogie? when was the last time they played well? Does the inverted fullback role actually suit them? No. Is Johnson really as bad as he looks under Ange? for Forest he was better.
Does anyone seriously think a manager like Areola wouldn't do a better job with this squad? Look at what Emery is doing with a quite average Villa squad let's be honest. We would be so much better under a competent coach.
Honestly we are so so bad under Ange is isn't funny. I can't believe the cult he has following him and why there isn't more pressure on him.
He needs to go. At this point his sacking is inevitable. Some of us are more clued up and saw it coming from a mile off. All this talk about just give a manager time and all will be ok is just delusional bollocks. Persisting with a clown in charge is not a wise strategy, it's stupid.
I'm sick of his arrogance in interviews, after he looks gormless all match on the touchline. Just because Arteta turned out good for Woolwich, it doesn't mean Ange is. It's clear now that Arteta is a very special coach, they had constant improvement. Ange is a pretender.
Benching TeflonRom would be a first step in the right direction!
7 out of our last 11 we've lost. So no not just one game. And considering after the City game, he happily created this idea, that the media then shoved down our throats. That he's just too much of a winner for our loser fanbase.. Maybe losing all of these games but then saying afterwards, but hey arent we playing well (When we're just really not playing well at all), isn't gonna fly.