I thought that too. Spent 45 minutes thinking they had to do the bare minimum. Only started playing in the second half
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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I think you are right but why does it lead to defeats against Ipswich and Palace? Surely they should be the bread and butter matches we pick points up in.
Losing to Woolwich and Newcastle would be more of a case of 'having it too easy'.
Anyway, I don't disagree, I think we as a club just have a loser mentality which seeps onto the pitch.
It's shocking. There are elements to this club I love but bloody hell we embarrass ourselves too.
I'm with you on the idea of getting bored of sacking managers, it's why I want this to work out. I wanted Conte to work out too but fans didn't want boring football. We have more attacking football now with flaws but I'm sure that won't be enough.
Not Son any more, he's lost his pace a bit and can't beat people consistently like he did.
Yeah probably but if he’s played in his right position (not hugging the touchline) he’d still score enough. He misses Harry, that much is obvious. He just doesn’t have the quality around him.
I get a bit pissed off with people making out he was some all seeing messiah for that outburst!
There may be some truth to it, but it was completely self-motivated with only one goal in mind so kind of makes a complete mockery of the whole thing!
I’m just apathetic now about where we are going as a club, they’ve knocked it out of me. Had a season ticket since 2006 but every year they take the passion that bit more out of me. I was talking to the guy I go with who’s had a season ticket for even longer on the walk back to Tottenham Hale and really are thinking of calling it a day until Levy packs up. Instead we’ll save the season ticket money and pay for some posher tickets a few times a year instead until that happens. It’s just too much of a commitment.
I’ve wanted every manager we’ve had to work out, even Mourinho, but it’s increasingly obvious it doesn’t make any difference who the bloke in charge is. We are like the Geordies under Ashley. Just got to wait them out.
Two things can be true.
I don't respect his outbursts because he literally does it at every club he's at.
But today he has been vindicated.
Bullshit.
It’s fucked up how a win would have us 3rd but as per usual we find a way to fuck it up. Today was an utter embarrassment. Players and coaching staff both totally responsible. I’ll get home for midnight,wake up in the morning in a bad mood,be annoyed that it’s two weeks till we play again but will do it all again. I fucking love this club but I hate it tonight!
Yeah fair enough mate, I completely understand those views. I'm the same, I have a season ticket too and sometimes you do just wanna give it up and wonder why it's worth the high prices we pay. The football results piss me off, you walk away from the stadium last week buzzing after a pretty good win only to lose today (didn't actually go to game today) but hopefully you get what I mean. It's the same errors, one min we have turned a corner the next we are doing the same shite and it's very frustrating.
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There was a huge amount of Boos at half time.
Crowd at the stadium are starting to turn. I think ange will be gone by Christmas.
We will lose to United in the league cup, who will be revitalised under a new manager and are cup specialists in recent years.
Our PL fixtures look daunting. Fulham will give us a massive game. City will absolutely pump us. We always lose to Chelsea. Liverpool, no chance.
Now way he is here in January. The City win and Villa win bought him some time.
Excellent point.
Conte said more or less the same.
What manager can change this? We need a Roy Keane player.
Ipswich showed fight today, fight from a club that had not won a game this season, fight playing away at a club in much better form.
Whilst we showed no fight to win that game and take advantage of the weekends results, no fight to win and go top 4
Whilst we showed no fight to win that game and take advantage of the weekends results, no fight to win and go top 4
It was obvious to me at games lile Fulham away last season and then the way we got absolutely battered against the likes of Liverpool at the end of the season, to know that Ange was a fraud.
There's no way a manager can survive who sets up the defence like he does.
I am shocked that he hasn't been sacked yet, but I can only think that Levy is waiting until we get knocked out of the cups.
But even Levy must know we have no chance of getting Europe this season.
I was watching a thing with Sonny this morning and before training he was going into an oxygen tent. Fucking mollycoddled,every one of them. Get everything on a plate to be able just to rely on ability and what tactics they are given and they still can’t perform consistently. Easiest thing for a professional footballer to be now is an athlete. What all that shit doesn’t give them though is a heart and a desire to go and perform.
The way we play works so much of the time but also flawed to fuck. Far too open and if plan A doesn’t work from an attacking point of view then we are fucked. Ange’s stubbornness to continue to play this way is going to cost him his job.
The way this season is going is we’ll win a lot of games comfortably but when we lose games like today it completely destroys the whole outlook of things.
Imagine we had won and was sitting in 3rd tonight?
Players don’t have the mentality for it. Soft as fuck.
Same fight we'll show in 2 weeks when we find a way to beat Man City... Consistency is the problem! We can beat anyone and lose to anyone atm
We're dead patchy but so is everyone at the moment, bar Liverpool.
I don't know why, but I've got a funny feeling Ange will last the season if we continue to WLWLWL thing.
We'll end up about 8th and I reckon that might see him get the bullet at the end of the season.
If our form properly nosedives Levy moves quickly though.