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Match Europa League - 12th December - Rangers (A) 8PM

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The VFTL pod thought the Saints match was more important and Rangers should be de-prioritized. Thinking was that even with a draw or loss we’d still have an excellent chance of progressing in EL, even if not top 8, in the new year with more players healthy. Whereas not beating Saints would be more catastrophic.

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I agree with this

Fail to beat Soton and the PL is absolutely fucked IMO

If we haven’t made 3 or 4 signings for the EL knockouts then that’s on us (via the extra round)
 
Go look at the final pages of the Chelsea match thread and see what kulusevski is doing, rather not doing. He's ball watching for the 3rd goal Enzo scored.
He's supposed to be the 3rd midfielder. He scored a goal but caused us so many problems because of the imbalance in midfield.
I don't think there is any point in trying to fit him in. Maddison, Son and Werner pick themselves tomorrow. If Moore was fit I'd play him instead of Werner.

Ah.... so he starts then.
 
I agree with this

Fail to beat Soton and the PL is absolutely fucked IMO

If we haven’t made 3 or 4 signings for the EL knockouts then that’s on us (via the extra round)
What are we actually fighting for in the PL right now though?

It's fucked up that I'm asking this before Christmas but that's what Spurs are this year. We don't look equipped to challenge for the Top 4. And I'm pretty sure fucking the EL so badly we have two extra playoff games to squeeze in isn't going to help with whatever it is we think we're doing in the league after Christmas either.

We deprioritised Roma and Galatasaray only to lose to Ipswich and look like a League two team against Fulham anyway, and all we've done in the process is pile on the pressure even more for tomorrow.

I don't believe for a second we'll be anywhere near a Europa League final come May but that said it's a knockout competition and anything can happen. I see no value in mugging it off.
 
What are we actually fighting for in the PL right now though?

It's fucked up that I'm asking this before Christmas but that's what Spurs are this year. We don't look equipped to challenge for the Top 4. And I'm pretty sure fucking the EL so badly we have two extra playoff games to squeeze in isn't going to help with whatever it is we think we're doing in the league after Christmas either.

We deprioritised Roma and Galatasaray only to lose to Ipswich and look like a League two team against Fulham anyway, and all we've done in the process is pile on the pressure even more for tomorrow.

I don't believe for a second we'll be anywhere near a Europa League final come May but that said it's a knockout competition and anything can happen. I see no value in mugging it off.
The single most annoying thing in this forum ...

"lets sack off cup games to prioritise the league"

We aren't getting top 4 in the league guys. So what are prioritising? Qualification for Europa ... oh wait ...?

We should play whatever the strongest team is we can.
 
What are we actually fighting for in the PL right now though?

It's fucked up that I'm asking this before Christmas but that's what Spurs are this year. We don't look equipped to challenge for the Top 4. And I'm pretty sure fucking the EL so badly we have two extra playoff games to squeeze in isn't going to help with whatever it is we think we're doing in the league after Christmas either.

We deprioritised Roma and Galatasaray only to lose to Ipswich and look like a League two team against Fulham anyway, and all we've done in the process is pile on the pressure even more for tomorrow.

I don't believe for a second we'll be anywhere near a Europa League final come May but that said it's a knockout competition and anything can happen. I see no value in mugging it off.
Top 6.

In theory it’s Ange fighting for his job (Soton), as if we lose that and Liverpool I think he has to go

Our squad ain’t good to challenge for top 6 if we are EL, and it’s not good enough to win the EL.

Best we can hope for is to fluke the LC
 
You know shipmates it is hard to predict a result for Spurs now .against the blue chav racist hissing classless shit I thought they usually do us but we may just have a chance.This Rangers game is the first this season I think we have no chance. Our heroes won't fancy a partisan crowd in freezing Glasgow and our clown won't play chess.i think 2 or 3 nil.
Hope I'm wrong
 
So it's going to be Dragusin + Dorrington or Dragusin + Gray out of position tomorrow.

Against Rangers who are going to be amped up to the max. Fuck it, maybe we'll just play one centre back and pretend it's "exciting".

Fucking mess.
 
Qualifying for the Top 6 just gets us back here. We're here now. Whats the point in prioritising to get here now if we're just going not bother when we are here?
Don’t tell me - I couldn’t a fuck about top 6. Would honestly like to see us get relegated if it triggered some form of change from this perpetual cycle of careful frugalness and faux ambition, so I’m not the best person to ask
 
Might be wrong but think Dorrington is injured

"Having suffered from injury issues of his own throughout much of 2024, the centre-back seems to have put that past him and has started four of the last five Premier League 2 matches for Spurs’ Under-21s."

 
Do'h!

I reckon Ange will go:

Forster
Porro Dragusin Gray Udogie
Bissouma Bentacur
Johnson Maddison Werner
Lankshear

Subs:
Austin, Son, Solanke, Bergvall, Sarr, Kulusevski
Errr..
I like the protection for the CBs, I would drop Johnson and play Kulu there and let Dom start personally but we've so many games and such a thin squad currently it's really hard to get this right.
 
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