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Match Nottingham Forest vs Tottenham Hotspur Boxing Day 26th December 15:00

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Don Pedro said:
yeah i get the anger and impatience. I feel every bit of it myself.... I just can't see any solution to this mess..

The only hope is that this team is young and we can build on it and that Ange has set some solid foundations in terms of style of play.... But thats it. The short term pain is horrific, losing every close game or battle we get into and not being able to show any sort of resilience... We probably need to punt on Iroala in the Summer
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His built no style of play!
 
BJK said:
Wasn't the goal a nice epitome of most of the things that are wrong under Ange?

-A fullback receives the ball, with his back towards the goal, in the middle of opposition's half for no good reason
-No central midfielder stays back and provides cover just in case there's a turnover and they try breaking through in transition
-Aforementioned fullback indeed turns it over, they indeed get out in transition
-A drill-like break leads to a simple goal

Who hasn't seen that coming?
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Yes where was the midfield on the charge back and that is without bias!
 
Doom Funk said:
Because he is shit
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Is there any reason why generally strikes the ball in only one way. The shot he had in 2nd half where goalie flicked it over prime example. He kind of does a side foot shot with his other leg in the air. Could have just put his foot through the ball low and hard. Could he have hit it with outside of right and aimed for far corner. Seems very limited in technique of striking the ball.
 
WillWilliams said:
The real fans travel home and away and over land and sea. Pre season tours as well. Never miss 1 game.

They are the OGs. Anyone else is just a part timer.

Hard facts.
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so real fans are ones who have enough money to afford a season ticket or even get one, live close enough to the ground to be able attend,are physically capable of attending a game, can afford trips to S.Korea, the States or Australia to watch friendlies. What a stupid comment.
 
Confusius said:
We could start by giving Ange some decent players!

But for that to happen, we need to change the wage structure, and change the recruitment team. So probably won't happen!
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This is the thing he has spent big money on two forwards Johnson and Dom who no one would have identified as players they would have wanted at spurs. Thats £110M there on its own. Other players like oddjob and Werner so what makes you think players he wants are decent?
 
LeeMcl said:
you are absolutely right. The injuries are terrible. And they do to an extent allow for breathing space. But then it’s also fair to say that in a 50+ game season the squad has to be up to quality / standard. And it’s just not. Outside of half them the drop off in quality is stunning. And to dig deeper, you have only 3 CB. One CF. 3 keepers who are at best questionable and two of which have never kicked a ball in top flight football. And then you have players like Regulion, who is either wanted or not wanted, not good enough or good enough to play. It’s a total mess mate. I don’t know who is to blame really, but it’s true Ange agreed to all of these compromises.
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Ange said he was happy with the business in the summer which includes all the outgoings and incomings. I think we prbly should have kept PEH and Gio for this season. With Gio you know he always tries when he plays. Keeping both these would have allowed berg to develop in his own time. Anyways when Gio played last season he was good. Great little passer of the ball just what we need to unlock packed defences.
 
Murphy said:
This fluffer also said he didn’t want more CBs or a bigger squad. Now bemoans injuries and having to play games every 3 days. This wasn’t a surprise - the fixtures came out in June and we knew we might play 69 games. Everyone involved in transfer policy is complicit in this shit show.

Ange is at fault because of the demands on the players are at least partially to blame for the injuries.
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Lots of teams playing every 3/4 days. Let’s see after wolves on Sunday we have a weeks rest for bar codes.
 
Who said:
many managers bring 'their' staff with them. Why pick randoms just because they have the same passport? Could it be about control? Bought and paid for loyalty with someone elses cash?
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I don’t like the whole thing of managers bringing their entourage with them normally as most our just mates jobs for the boys. What makes some 2nd assistant coach good enough for a top club. It’s like when Moyes went to manure and took his back room team to manure as well. What qualifies any of them to be working at a top club and what qualities would they bring. On the other Ange has come in on his own but then I assume him, Lange and Munn have decided to bro g the sacked jobs coaches or jedinek. Basically Aussie mates. Surely the process should in part be same as interviewing for new manager. The assistants, no2, coaches should all be interviewed to see if they are right fit and have the necessary experience / qualities suitable for the role. Further still the club should sort of be actively looking through various agencies for these positions so that anyone could apply. Basically like any normal job where you go through the whole selection process. This jobs for mates really should not going on 2025.
 
daveyboy88 said:
because hes a WINNER!! hes told us enough times hasnt he, all hes interested in is winning....welllll, now that hes realised this isnt the 53rd rated league in football, and his braindead, one plan, kamikaze bullshit doesnt work, its about entertaining now.

bless him, he just wants attention and to be respected.
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Well the goal posts keep changing don’t they? It’s now a process to get to where we want to be. Winning a cup last season wouldn’t have meant anything as it wont show anything, then it was he always wins something in 2nd season. Once that is gone it will be something else.
 
Maureen said:
Well the goal posts keep changing don’t they? It’s now a process to get to where we want to be. Winning a cup last season wouldn’t have meant anything as it wont show anything, then it was he always wins something in 2nd season. Once that is gone it will be something else.
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yep, its about being entertaining now. grinding out results is boring to the former 'mr winner'.

hes not a football manager hes a motivational speaker. that shit probably is enough when youre managing at a level where theres a real lack of ability.

its ok mate, he wont see jan 17th. the countdown is on.
 
Robba said:
I think you're are dead on about ambition. Everton "process" needs to lead somewhere. Where is somewhere and what's around about the travel time?

That's the problem with the communication. Talking in mysteries only works when you're winning. When you're losing people find fault in absolutely everything.

He really does need to come out and say some solid plans for the rest of this season. He needs to personally put out some markers for the supporters.

He owes the supporters and the club that.
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Good point he always says things like “where we want I be” or “this is who we are”.
 
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