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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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It’s a better squad than the performances would indicate. It’s very clearly underperforming.

Yes and no. I think our forward line is shit. Son is past it, Johnson good goal scorer but little else only Solanke decent as an all round footballer.

However we do on paper have 2-3 good wing backs and a bit of depth in the middle. A manager that plays 352 or some form of wing back system could do better I think simply due to the personal. I think a back 4 hurts us and not just because the full backs are high and inverted but due to the personal at the back and the front just not fitting.

With Spence, Porro and Udogie as wingers we should be able to generate chances to Solanke, Richy, Johnson etc while having enough players back to deal with counters. Oddly this is a squad sort of suited for Conte.

I just wish Ange would try something like that. Poch for all the criticism of being stubborn used wing backs at times and when we had Rose, Walker with Dembele in the middle it was very effective.
 
Yes and no. I think our forward line is shit. Son is past it, Johnson good goal scorer but little else only Solanke decent as an all round footballer.

However we do on paper have 2-3 good wing backs and a bit of depth in the middle. A manager that plays 352 or some form of wing back system could do better I think simply due to the personal. I think a back 4 hurts us and not just because the full backs are high and inverted but due to the personal at the back and the front just not fitting.

With Spence, Porro and Udogie as wingers we should be able to generate chances to Solanke, Richy, Johnson etc while having enough players back to deal with counters. Oddly this is a squad sort of suited for Conte.

I just wish Ange would try something like that. Poch for all the criticism of being stubborn used wing backs at times and when we had Rose, Walker with Dembele in the middle it was very effective.
Nobody will be playing 3-5-2 without any centrebacks lol
 
They’re also completely fooked from playing every three days. They’re underperforming but I don’t think we can ignore fatigue in this.
I can ignore it. Every other club in 4 competitions is playing the same number of games. Tiredness, injuries, too many games etc are just more excuses, something we are actually elite at.

If finding ways to explain failure was a competition our fans would win the league every year.
 
I can ignore it. Every other club in 4 competitions is playing the same number of games. Tiredness, injuries, too many games etc are just more excuses, something we are actually elite at.

If finding ways to explain failure was a competition our fans would win the league every year.
Yeah I get that, but it can’t be ignored.

This is another reason for adapting the tactics and maybe conserving energy, providing more protection and not have both fullbacks bombing on.
 
Losing your main center back is pretty much to worse thing that can happen to a squad. Go look at Liverpools win record without VVD, Arse without Saliba, City without Dias. All dropped significantly.

We are without both CBs and our keeper. Our first choice backup CB injured and replaced with an 18 year old who is not a CB.

We have continued to score plenty of goals through this patch, but simply cannot stop the rot at the back.
I was being sarcastic tbh matey lol.

So, what should Ange have done against Forest? Park the bus and let them attack our makeshift defence? Or control the game, dominate the ball and score as we always do?

I'm not sure he got the game wrong. They didn't create much and their goal was a product of poor defending. We dominated the ball, but our players didn't deliver.

Kulu was too slow on the ball. Always holding onto it too long and getting tackled.

Solanke rarely looking for the goal and always with his back to goal looking to lay the ball off. He really suits being park of a strike pairing rather than a lone striker.

I was being sarcastic tbh matey lol.
That went right over my head. :) There is a lot of how managers and players move around in football that is down to agencies and business relationships. Just now you've got a front office and manager with ties to City Group. It's one more reason Postecoglou isn't going anywhere. Two things will save him. First, he was in the media and did motivational speaking in Australia and he's good at selling himself and his system. He put a lot of effort up front into telling fans what they wanted to hear and creating an image. That reserve of good will is still working for him. But the second thing is the people in the front office who should be overseeing his work and evaluating him are often from the same network of connections. I think he is as close to "fire proof" as any Spurs manager has ever been.
 
Also which "top jobs" will the likes of Iraola be holding out for anyway?

Who might be looking for a new manager come the summer?

City? Depending on the case they'll either be fucked or get off Scott free and resume chasing elite players and managers

Goons? They won't sack Legohead so depends if he walks himself

Maresca seems secure at the Chavs

Slot is going nowhere anytime soon

Emery won't be sacked for a fall off after reaching highs Villa haven't experienced for decades (and face it still doing much better than us)

Amorim is new enough in post not to be in danger.

Offer to triple his salary, because the only other "big" clubs I see with likely vacancies at the end of the season are Newcastle and Everton. Are we that unattractive that we struggle to recruit against them?

Any truly good manager who believes in himself isn’t going to chase a job because of more money and lack of other options.

In fact any manager that comes to this club in its current state instantly raises red flags for me.
 
Current crisis at CB has me wondering why we sold Dier? Dier was always solid when he had to come in and Dragusin isnt much of an upgrade.

VDV/Romero/Drag/Dier.

There's your 4 centre halves going into a season in Europe with Davies as emergency cover.

Ange will say it's because Dier is too slow to play his high line shite but Dragusin isn't exactly fast.
 
Yes and no. I think our forward line is shit. Son is past it, Johnson good goal scorer but little else only Solanke decent as an all round footballer.

However we do on paper have 2-3 good wing backs and a bit of depth in the middle. A manager that plays 352 or some form of wing back system could do better I think simply due to the personal. I think a back 4 hurts us and not just because the full backs are high and inverted but due to the personal at the back and the front just not fitting.

With Spence, Porro and Udogie as wingers we should be able to generate chances to Solanke, Richy, Johnson etc while having enough players back to deal with counters. Oddly this is a squad sort of suited for Conte.

I just wish Ange would try something like that. Poch for all the criticism of being stubborn used wing backs at times and when we had Rose, Walker with Dembele in the middle it was very effective.
Poch adapted a lot. We changed systems and tactics fairly regularly until the end when everyone ran out of gas. But always with his philosophy for football in mind. Same under Jose for that matter. And Conte notoriously changed systems between his first and second season.

And that's the difference between those three and Ange. They have a philosophy for football, but know that there are multiple ways to achieve it. Ange is all philosophy, no tactics.

Angeball is not a system or a tactic, it is a philosophy and idea. Nothing more.
 
Any truly good manager who believes in himself isn’t going to chase a job because of more money and lack of other options.

In fact any manager that comes to this club in its current state instantly raises red flags for me.
No the opposite.

This club punches well below its weight. I want a manager with the confidence and self belief that they can finally get it winning trophies. They should have that ego.

What's the alternative, just shut the club down? Have no manager at all? Have Paul Coyte pick the starting XI out of a hat?
 
No the opposite.

This club punches well below its weight. I want a manager with the confidence and self belief that they can finally get it winning trophies. They should have that ego.

What's the alternative, just shut the club down? Have no manager at all? Have Paul Coyte pick the starting XI out of a hat?

Yes we need someone who’s won trophies. Someone who won’t stand for Levy’s bullshit. Someone like Conte. Or Jose Mourinho. They’d turn this club around.
 
Yes we need someone who’s won trophies. Someone who won’t stand for Levy’s bullshit. Someone like Conte. Or Jose Mourinho. They’d turn this club around.
I'm not saying that though am I?

Look, I know ENIC are ultimately responsible for us being underachievers. There's no argument from me here, but Ange is isn't appointed by any other club either.

This season is going well beyond simple underachieving.
 
It’s a better squad than the performances would indicate. It’s very clearly underperforming.
compare what conte had from the midfield backwards to whats available now and its huge. yes kane is a big miss and son has regressed, but the midfield, defence and keeper have all been sufficiently upgraded.

what conte had
lloris
emerson, dier, davies, romero, sanchez, doherty, perisic
PEH, bentancur, skipp, winks, ndombele, lo celso

now
vicario
VDV, porro, romero, udogie, drag, davies, spence
sarr, bissouma, bentancur, maddison, kulu, gray, berg


them 3 lines have been sufficiently upgraded. the front line needs big investment and we are still a quality CM short....unless gray or berg can become that missing piece.
 
I can't for the life of me understand anyone who thinks one way of playing in the epl is a great tactic? It's fucking unreal, madness and doomed to fail!
You've got players (Robertson for one) playing for the top team in the league, a team 6-7 points clear of everyone else? saying Slot tweaks their individual game, every game and still some Spurs supporters are still backing Ange's methods!!!!
 
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