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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 72 64.3%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.7%
  • Total voters
    112
Billy Bob mate said:
In general, some of the most prominent arguments are

'I can't see Angeball ever working'
'He's too stubborn'
Etc

That assumes that other managers would have gotten more points by sitting back, being more 'pragmatic', etc.

This will never be proven.

All I know is pragmatic football didn't work for us with Jose or Conte and playing that way lost the players and fans far quicker than Angeball has.

Sacking Ange is not a surefire way to more points. Can easily make the same argument that such a shakeup would damage us more.

Just have to see what the chiefs end up thinking I guess.
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In your view, is there no middle ground between Ange-ball on one side and Cont/Mouringo-ball in the other?

I think it's possible to play attacking football, with coordinated high press and when you need to defend you are organised in defence.
Ange can attack. The bad thing is, that he hasn't in 18 months been able to teach the players how to coordinate the high press end how to play organised in defense. That's on Ange. Of course, it would look a little better if our best defenders and Vicario were available but the structure would still be missing

He must go. Now rather then later. There is still time to save some face this season and probably fight for a win in the Europa League. If we keep Ange, we don't stand a chance against well organised teams that can counter.
 
Matt1882 said:
The fact it hasn't happened already, despite is being worse than the dozen he's already sacked, leads me to think this div has carte blanche all season.
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Or some kind of discriminating pics of Daniel Levy up his sleeve?

Although the most likely reason is the obvious one. He's a yes man who hasn't criticised the ownership. Happy to be in a well paid high profile job getting his scruffy, bearded boat race in front of a world wide audience every week.

No ruffled feathers etc.

Levy will sack him. But the timing will be based on when it becomes a popular decision with the majority of the fan base.

A fan base that seems to be 50/50 at the moment so still too much support for Ange for Levy to pull the trigger
 
dudu said:
He would be gone.

Jose was sacked backseat he had completely lost the dressing room, same with Conte and likely Poch too.

Perhaps without a Kane level star here the players might not have the same hold but once the dressing room is gone the manager very, very quickly follows
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The thing is, Ange seems to still have a good hold of the dressing room so far.

Think the players still thrive even though it has going bad result wise lately, and that probably comes down to the way we play, and obviously also his skills to manage a group which struggles.

Maybe also more sound expecations among them at this point, with half the group of players out?
 
Doom Funk said:
Ipswich about to be 6 points behind us

They had zero wins after 9 games

Ange be cooking a storm
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Late Fulham equaliser!

giphy.webp


Get the fuck in there 💪
 
John Thomas said:
Or some kind of discriminating pics of Daniel Levy up his sleeve?

Although the most likely reason is the obvious one. He's a yes man who hasn't criticised the ownership. Happy to be in a well paid high profile job getting his scruffy, bearded boat race in front of a world wide audience every week.

No ruffled feathers etc.

Levy will sack him. But the timing will be based on when it becomes a popular decision with the majority of the fan base.

A fan base that seems to be 50/50 at the moment so still too much support for Ange for Levy to pull the trigger
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Once we go out of the Europa and there's no chance in hell of CL football next season I think it will happen.

Hope sooner though.
 
The level of cognitive dissonance, excuses made and blaming of other posters by the usual suspects on this forum is absolutely incredible. It so zeitgeist so of this time. This is the age of the personality cult. They have picked their man, and they will stand beside him.to the bitter end. This pathology the doubling down the anger at the out group it's well understood but to see it so explicitly acted out against all evidence and logic is something else.
 
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Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
The level of cognitive dissonance, excuses made and blaming of other posters by the usual suspects on this forum is absolutely incredible. It so zeitgeist si of this time. This is the age of the personality cult. They have picked their man, and they will stand beside him.to the bitter end. This pathology the doubling down the anger at the out group it's well understood but to see it so explicitly acted out against all evidence and logic is something else.
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We just have to "cop it" !!!

Even if objecting to it strongly, and getting the fans onside to influence game outcome would be massively in our favour. No, like the cuckies we are, we'll cop it!
 
Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
The level of cognitive dissonance, excuses made and blaming of other posters by the usual suspects on this forum is absolutely incredible. It so zeitgeist si of this time. This is the age of the personality cult. They have picked their man, and they will stand beside him.to the bitter end. This pathology the doubling down the anger at the out group it's well understood but to see it so explicitly acted out against all evidence and logic is something else.
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I’ll readily admit that posts on here alter my thinking on Ange. I’m pretty much 50/50 on him. I do think if we replaced him with someone like Iriola, we’d get back to maybe getting CL, do well in the cups, but not win any and generally be a bit more settled. But I think Ange has it in him to have a fucking nightmare (present state), but his way of doing things might just lead us to win stuff.

So I sit at 50/50, then come on here and see him referred to as a fat cunt, getting shit for coughing, getting shit for not laser eyeing interviewers, getting shit for his pressers, etc. Then those supporting him get called cultists, Ange bois, happy clappers. Then I read fans saying they want to lose matches to get rid of him.

Every post like this adds a percentage point onto me wanting him to stay.

Give him grief for not being able to organise the defence. For not getting his “only one of you go forward” message to the fullbacks. For not resting Udogie quickly enough when he was obviously tired and out of form. But calling him a fraud and a fat cunt? Fuck that.
 
Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
The level of cognitive dissonance, excuses made and blaming of other posters by the usual suspects on this forum is absolutely incredible. It so zeitgeist si of this time. This is the age of the personality cult. They have picked their man, and they will stand beside him.to the bitter end. This pathology the doubling down the anger at the out group it's well understood but to see it so explicitly acted out against all evidence and logic is something else.
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There is no anger at the Ange out group.......I'm Ange in all the way till he is inevitably sacked at the end of the season. I'm sure even the most ardent Ange in fan knows he won't be here next season.

Age of the personality cult? You're thinking too deeply about all this tbh.

You want him out asap, some fans don't think its the right time, that's all it is, a difference of opinion.
 
Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
The level of cognitive dissonance, excuses made and blaming of other posters by the usual suspects on this forum is absolutely incredible. It so zeitgeist si of this time. This is the age of the personality cult. They have picked their man, and they will stand beside him.to the bitter end. This pathology the doubling down the anger at the out group it's well understood but to see it so explicitly acted out against all evidence and logic is something else.
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The Ange Cult is a phenomenon that should be studied. Has done nothing to deserve any of the worship but will continue to get it.

Apparently people being mean to him on an internet forum is entrenching the support. Which is essentially admitting they care more about sticking it to the meanies than the fact we're 3 points ahead of Crystal Palace in 15th.

But hey, everyone entitled to their (dumb) opinions and all. Like I've said before, he's a dead man walking regardless of what people say - they're just waiting for the right timing imo.
 
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