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To be clear, I’d rather be wrong and we win the league. I’d rather you were right and we won the league. Results matter above all else.The Ange Cult is a phenomenon that should be studied. Has done nothing to deserve any of the worship but will continue to get it.
Apparently people being mean to him on an internet forum is entrenching the support. Which is essentially admitting they care more about sticking it to the meanies than the fact we're 3 points ahead of Crystal Palace in 15th.
But hey, everyone entitled to their (dumb) opinions and all. Like I've said before, he's a dead man walking regardless of what people say - they're just waiting for the right timing imo.
To be clear, I’d rather be wrong and we win the league. I’d rather you were right and we won the league. Results matter above all else.
And I’ve said clearly that I take on board football related criticism of the manager.
But, yes, a bit of me wants him to do well to stick it to those calling him a fraudulent fat cunt.
So I want him to do well and us to succeed so I can have the good feeling of being right. The only way you can have that feeling is if we lose enough that he fails. I know which side of history I’d like to be on.
I just don’t get how anyone can watch us and not think it’s an utter mess defensively and in attack and in and out of possession. Nobody ever looks to be in the right place when we don’t have the ball for one.
To be honest, I don’t really see you partaking in the fat cunt stuff. If your belief is football based, and it seems to be, you’ve no complaint from me.A bit of you wanting him to do well is a very different thing to "these guys are cunts so I believe in him a bit more".
You either believe in the job he's doing (based on the facts) or you don't (based on the facts). I don't think he's failing miserably because I think a lot of his supporters are culty, I think he's failing miserably because I never really bought in to his schtick from the start and think he has progressively gotten worse and worse at the club, to the point this season where we are an unmitigated, tragic failure of a team.
I'm not going to base my opinions on whether or not it puts me in an awkward position or not. I know I'm right about Ange, he won't win anything here .. bookmark it if you want.
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Yeah there's a middle ground. Of course there is.In your view, is there no middle ground between Ange-ball on one side and Cont/Mouringo-ball in the other?
I think it's possible to play attacking football, with coordinated high press and when you need to defend you are organised in defence.
Ange can attack. The bad thing is, that he hasn't in 18 months been able to teach the players how to coordinate the high press end how to play organised in defense. That's on Ange. Of course, it would look a little better if our best defenders and Vicario were available but the structure would still be missing
He must go. Now rather then later. There is still time to save some face this season and probably fight for a win in the Europa League. If we keep Ange, we don't stand a chance against well organised teams that can counter.
This is whats most frustrating to me. Ange keeps putting in positions they won’t succeed.
Son and Johnson are inside forwards. They’re useless playing touchline winger.
Udogie and Porro are barely back 4 fullbacks let alone inverted fullbacks. Both much better in wide space. Porro created numerous chances from wide vs Newcastle.
Why can’t we have a manager that actually makes the best use of this squad Instead of trying to force his system on its players.
I reckon we have someone lined up for the summer, don’t get me wrong I’d love Ange to turn it around and we don’t need to get someone else in , but I can’t see it.Very strange to say the least, Levy better hope the gamble pays off.
Yeah there's a middle ground. Of course there is.
(Even allowing for the fact I don't believe Ange is as naive as some paint him)
However, what there isn't is guarantees.
There's no guarantees with Ange.
There's no guarantees with someone else.
For that reason I lean towards sacking Ange now being the wrong decision.
So the next guy could get us relegated.In fairness there's almost a guarantee any other manager could do better than this. You basically actually couldn't do any worse unless you actually got us relegated.
"Do I dare disturb the universe?"There's no guarantees with Ange.
There's no guarantees with someone else.