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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Regardless of what I or anyone thinks of him in terms of coaching calibre... Listening to him speak after tonights game is further proof of one thing..


Being manager of Tottenham Hotspur is a fucking brutal job. He sounds beaten down. They all do in the end.
 
Incomplete_usernam said:
Speaking personally, when we’re on a league run as dire as this, the only thing I want to hear from the manager is, ‘This is on me—I’ll fix it.’ Everyone can see the performances aren’t up to scratch, so when he shifts the narrative to players not executing his instructions, it feels like a subtle deflection.

But here’s the rub: what if the players are following orders, and it’s the system itself that’s flawed? 5 points from 27 is it now? I honestly think Ange might do better to focus on inspiring the players instead imo.

At the end of the day, though, actions speak louder than words, and the results are doing all the talking right now. Whether he owns it or not, the trajectory we’re on doesn’t lie. I don’t want us to lose another manager, and I’d love nothing more than to see him turn things around. But if I were a betting man, I wouldn’t put a penny on it mate.
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Right I hear all this but throwing players under the bus is stretching it, he actually did say it's also on him to fix.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Fuck that's not a good interview.

Hasn't thrown any players under the bus and he's taken the responsibility but he looks and sounds beaten.
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Like I just said briefly to Shady “the only thing I want to hear from the manager is, ‘This is on me—I’ll fix it.’ Everyone can see the performances aren’t up to scratch, so when he shifts the narrative to players not executing his instructions, it feels like a subtle deflection.

But here’s the rub: what if the players are following orders, and it’s the system itself that’s flawed? 5 points from 27 is it now? I honestly think Ange might do better to focus on inspiring the players instead imo.”

That’s kind of where my head is right now but I do agree with you, he looks like he knows it’s over.
 
daveyboy88 said:
theres a lack of leadership 100% which is why giving son ther armband was pathetic, that should of at least gone to someone who has to have a shave every now and then.

the players are drained mate, its been a year of shit results. the idiot has them up so high that they cant lose the ball or they know they are doing intense sprints back every single time. the tactics are a dream to play against not for.
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I think you can say the players are drained if they're still trying to play the managers 'tactics', I don't think we leave one drained today, we looked clueless. That's worse to me than anything else. We don't have a plan, we don't play patterns, we don't play a certain way, we look clueless, uncoached. As I said earlier or in a other thread, as bad as we were under Mourinho or conté, we looked dangerous on the counter. With Ange we don't even counter. It shows how fucking good Kane is. And fuck Daniel Levy.
 
Klaus said:
Levy has never, ever had a good sense of what's actually happening on the pitch. Those embarrassing moments in the Amazon series when he tried to chat to Mourinho about the football should have made that clear.

The guy is a glorified real-estate state developer. He's in this game for money, because him and Joe Lewis realised the Prem was an easy way to get rich 20 years ago. And fair play to him, it's made him a billionaire.

But that's as far as his insight on the game goes. This is the same idiot that lurched from Poch to Mourinho to Nuno. I am utterly convinced if he were on this forum he'd be one of those idiots everyone has on ignore cos their takes on the game are so terrible.
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I feel sad for him. He is a dreamer and has his principles. He finds himself in a grim situation. No one wants to see romance die. Especially at Spurs, where we sort of live and die by those special moments, but eventually reality has to bite.
 
Jose Dominguez 25 said:
I think you can say the players are drained if they're still trying to play the managers 'tactics', I don't think we leave one drained today, we looked clueless. That's worse to me than anything else. We don't have a plan, we don't play patterns, we don't play a certain way, we look clueless, uncoached. As I said earlier or in a other thread, as bad as we were under Mourinho or conté, we looked dangerous on the counter. With Ange we don't even counter. It shows how fucking good Kane is. And fuck Daniel Levy.
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watch the spirit that forest show compared to spurs. its night and day. ones a group of players that are happy and fired up under a manager, the others are just waiting for a fat cunt to be sacked.


we will see a nice bounce when he goes, which is why if its now (maybe im stupid) but id fancy us in the league cup and europa. we have some decent players.
 
Shadydan said:
Right I hear all this but throwing players under the bus is stretching it, he actually did say it's also on him to fix.
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He also said that we were ‘passive’ and our performance was ‘unacceptable’ but was clueless as to why and what he could do to address it

He isn’t capable so why persist and don’t say ‘Mason?’
 
Aphex said:
And just remember, this performance tonight came off the back of being taken to ET by tamworth, and we were a decent connection away from being knocked out in injury time.

I mean, it's quite surreal the guy is still in the job. I just don't understand what the board are doing. The signs were there October 2023. I said he should have been sacked in the summer, then every month since then, but no.

Serious question marks have to be asked of the club and how they have let Ange get away with this for so long and they've kept faith. The patient thing to do? Or pure incompetence? Pretty obvious which one it is.
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Angeball requires two complete sides capable of starting in the top 6 / 8 in the EPL to be successful over the medium to long term.

The players are not able to physically sustain the level of intensity required by Angeball without breaking down. Angeball requires lots of rotation.
 
8andA1/2Peppers said:
That's whats been driving me crazy these past few months.. The results on there own would be more than bad enough.. But then I look around and expect the reaction from others to be the same.. That this is a disaster and can't continue... But I was hearing "trust the process" or "these so called fans who are questioning the manager". It's like being in the twilight zone.
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If you put aside all the silly Twitter tacticos who are simply contrary and like to present themselves as gatekeepers of profound footballing knowledge (when, in actual fact, they're just cunts), I think a lot of long suffering Spurs fans were prepared to give this guy as much time as possible.

We were sick to the back fucking teeth of Levy's chopping and changing. Conte had served up months of murder ball and talked the club down and, with Ange, we had a positive, avuncular Aussie, who represented good times and good, attacking football.

But I have no fucking idea how people can still think is working. That football is just vibes and, as long as you want it enough, it will all click. It doesn't work like that. You have to be exceedingly clever and operate in the finest details. Also, his coaching team is fucking risible.

I dunno. Depressing.

LEVY OUT.
 
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