There may be similarities but the difference is Sarri developed his system in one of the hardest places to do it the Italian League system. Ange developed his system in the A League a National League level.
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There may be similarities but the difference is Sarri developed his system in one of the hardest places to do it the Italian League system. Ange developed his system in the A League a National League level.
Ok I will allow that, and maybe Big Hairy
SERIOUSLY? You seriously cannot see difference in Slot and Ange game management?
If it is true, all the answers are absolutely above you anyway.
But I try to explain it to others who could potentially grasp it. Difference is about pressing triggers for example. About pointing out to their players in what moments to press in what areas of field. It is about using the resource in most effective possible way. Our players essentially press every single moment of every single game. Constant sprinting and pressing - and sprinting with WAY HIGHER FREQUENCY (also meaning with lower quality - try it yourself if your recation time to opposition playing turning or making fake turn is slower after you have made 40x 20 meters sprints in previous 85 minutes, or when you have done 30 x 20 meters sprints in same timeframe) is different from coaching specifical triggers when and how to press.
P.S using Klopp is very poor example here. He was not as sophisticated with his approach either. And that is why Liverpool won 1 EPL under him. Too often he worked his players too hard and they were too tired by the spring time. Slot seems to have learned from it really and improved upon it too.
P.P.S again your total absolutism "we dominated games with 70+ of the ball", "dictated" and whatnot. But RESULTS IN THE TABLE were still shit. We still drew with Leicester. We still lost to Woolwich and Newcastle (regardless of what you and Ange think we "deserved") , we still even lost to likes of Crystal Palace and Ipswich (!) with near full availability. Yet you STILL fetish that kind of thing. I mean do you really want us to get good results or is just sprinting for the sake of sprinting your end goal?
More sprints doesn't = more physical load.
That chart seemed to reference Footovision as a data source but no information on how they actually define what a sprint is and how they collect their data on sprints. I checked their website and it seems they use AI screen capture. No issue with that but even then, what kind of sprints are the issue they are claiming cause injuries? Is a long sprint more load on a player than 2-3 short accelerations? do they count short accelerations as sprints?
That was really just an engagement farming post and not much more on its own without a shit load more context.
Not bothered by sticking with Ange or not for this conversation but at least talk about the reality of things.
Err what?
Get the best possible results but every single elite coach in the world will be trying to wring every last drop of effort out of their players when it comes to the games with the most important results. The idea that you can preserve energy and win elite sports is mental.
Even if you try to preserve energy from one area of the game it will be so you can use it somewhere else. There are no easy wins in elite sport. Every single elite athlete is constantly pushing the envelope to expend more energy and find the next level.
If you go 5-0 up in the first half, your coaching has been successful.
Impossible to get 100% out of 100% of players in any game. Coaches will almost always be asking for it tho, because the moment you give an athlete the idea they don't need to give 100%, is the moment you start losing. You can tell them when to change gear and what period or phase of game you want to attack but that's not the same as not going 100% and every single coach will be doing that. Be under no illusions that Ange doesn't pick phases and periods to attack just because of what he says in press conferences. And again, that's not me defending Ange to say let's keep him.
Hahahahahah. Brilliant! Thank you so much for proving my point.
But yea, you are right. Slot is total clueless fucking moron, isn't he. I mean... he did decide to rotate some key positions for the league cup semifinal first leg. He did not go out for 100% in both games. Ange did. But you are right. Slot is idiot and Ange is secret-genius. Though... for some very weird reason it is Slot team that plays in the final
.Also clearly every other manager bar Ange are absolute clueless morons. Because EVERY. SINGLE. SIDE. IN. THE. LEAGUE wastes more time and lets it's players recover for few more seconds to recover. Only our brilliant coach is focused on true mustard of an approach of doing the right thin. Everyone else are wrong and clearly underperforming except for us
.Ok, ok, I'll stop now. I'm almost falling down from my seat.
Again - you are right. Always pushing players to everything they have every game is only way for SUSTAINED LONG TERM SUCCESS. You know, that kind of success that we are bathing in right now. I'd just wish that all other 19 clueless idiots (13 of which sit above us in the table) would take a note from it!
And there's so much more structure to how Sarri plays.
There isn't acres of space between every part of the team. And there's constant movement, even if walking pace, by other players to receive the ball. Lots of short passing triangles to open up the opponent so that they can play it quick vertically.
What if it’s Kenny? Or Lucille?
Probably because they, ya know, practice how to play the way they play.
Sarri developed it in the Italian league and it has only ever worked in the Italian league.
And wait at least 6 months before starting a thread searching for his replacement!
You'll be telling me men have two bollocks next
Never said that. Didn't even mention Slot.
Ange had no option to rotate. But that's not even the conversation we are having. You were referencing sprints and talking about players not giving 100%.
But you are right. Slot is idiot and Ange is secret-genius. Though... for some very weird reason it is Slot team that plays in the final
Not what we were talking about unless you think Slot tells his players not to give 100%?
They waste time so they can control the periods of intensity to their advantage. They are able to preserve energy in one place, so they can use it to be more intense in another. They aren't reducing load, they are controlling game states.
Atm what we have been trying to do is go against the grain and find a way to take them out of that control and comfort zone by getting the ball in play faster from goal kicks and not allowing them to control game states to their advantage. It hasn't worked. It's got fuck all to do with load or injuries.
Only our brilliant coach is focused on true mustard of an approach of doing the right thin. Everyone else are wrong and clearly underperforming except for us
Never said anything about Ange doing things better or right. He has gambled on doing something different and it hasn't worked. If it costs him his job that's par for the course in elite sport. Also, when you do try to do things differently you are much more open to criticism as well.
Why are you falling down from your seat? Are you ok?
Maybe you should invest in a better chair? Or type standing?
Not really sure what you think you are saying here so, let's just put this down as another one of your moments.
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It’s those fucking sprints again
All due respect - the system isn't going to work in the EPL, everyone knows exactly what Ange is going to do, there's rarely any deviation from his plan. No matter who comes back from injury.
Top, top picture work there Fab
I enjoyed it.
Can only imagine the fits the gooner fans are having about that trip to Dubai. Almost tempted to have a cheeky look on one of their forums
Must be Arteta’s training or is it only Ange’s training that injures players?
Arteta has clearly been telling his players to sprint more. Obviously it's the sprints.