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Management Ange Postecoglou

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What is it that we would have lost that they wouldn't have been able to replace?
Well, to be clear part of it is that Ange himself managed to clear all of those hurdles despite varyingly long odds of doing so. I think retroactively considering our run through the competition as an easy and likely accomplishment is wrong.

But I do think the chances would have been lower under Mason, whose skills I don't have a ton of respect for as a 33-year-old who has never properly taken charge of his own team. I hope he gets the West Brom job and can begin his career in earnest.

To answer the question though, I think both the consistency of message and principles under Ange helped us through the competition, and that he did offer some ineffable nous about getting through those crunch do-or-die moments. He instilled a steely mentality in the knockout stages that his more decorated predecessors couldn't.

Both the guy who whipped Spurs into a mentally strong winner in European away legs and the guy who lost at home to Ipswich on the road to a 38 point season are the same guy. It's a funny old game.
 
Both the guy who whipped Spurs into a mentally strong winner in European away legs and the guy who lost at home to Ipswich on the road to a 38 point season are the same guy. It's a funny old game.

This kind of stuff is just laying it on thick. We won two away legs in total, against fucking Bodo after we had secured a win at home so we had control away, and against Frankfurt. You’re over egging the pudding.

We lost to AZ away and were awful. And our away record in the league stage wasn’t good against anyone of worth.

Frankfurt was a very decent away result and performance but that’s really it.
 
Ange has done what we hoped Jose or Conte would do, got the bottler monkey off our backs. He's served his purpose, no shame in shaking his hand and showing him the door.

I think we need a new coach to put together another poch like team but that will actually win stuff. No idea who that is though.
 
Well, to be clear part of it is that Ange himself managed to clear all of those hurdles despite varyingly long odds of doing so. I think retroactively considering our run through the competition as an easy and likely accomplishment is wrong.

But I do think the chances would have been lower under Mason, whose skills I don't have a ton of respect for as a 33-year-old who has never properly taken charge of his own team. I hope he gets the West Brom job and can begin his career in earnest.

To answer the question though, I think both the consistency of message and principles under Ange helped us through the competition, and that he did offer some ineffable nous about getting through the business end of the competition. He instilled a steely mentality in the knockout stages that his more decorated predecessors couldn't.

Both the guy who whipped Spurs into a mentally strong winner in European away legs and the guy who lost at home to Ipswich on the road to a 38 point season are the same guy. It's a funny old game.
a) we played with the same lack of shape and headless pressing until he blocked up a little from the Frankfurt tie.

b) "ineffable nous"? Vague fluff.

c) He literally just gave us a bit more stability by blocking up more and not being kamakazee. Tier 1 basic bitch shit that he otherwise refused to employ which he might well have been pursuaded to finally capitulate to by Wells and Mason themselves.

What specifically is it that Mason did, tactically, in his short spells at the helm for us, that makes him less of a competent tactician that Ange.

Or does it all just come down to vibes?
 
Woolwich fans are laughing at us for keeping him. They lost 4 games in the league. We lost 22. The maths is not really that hard.

A club thinking beating bodo is better than beating real madrid isn't going places. I can't believe how small minded some of our fans are.

Sure, celebrate. Rub it in. But wanting this loser to stay? That's dumb.
 
Personally, if i was him - i would prefer to know whether my holidays are just couple weeks or permanent :)
Life is a holiday when you earn millions and stand around with your hands in your pockets
I don’t think it’s as easy as you say and is so incredibly risky. The whole campaign can blow up with a single odd goal getting through. Based on where our season was when we apparently decided to risk it all for the cup, we were in a very different situation than many other clubs in that our season was already likely over.

I don’t think we strategically sacrificed the league to the degree Ange has maybe suggested. I think it’s a cop out now that we won. We didn’t bench swaths of starters in league games to rest for the cup. More often than not we played our strongest team, and the only exceptions was integrating returning players a little slower. Ange is deflecting and trying to take the blame for the poor season off him and the players.

Huh? He was chopping and changing non stop from January on. VdV and Romero didn't play 90 minutes together at all after their injuries. Then there's the ridiculously low levels everyone was playing at.
Between his selections and the effort levels on display, it was always clear the league was a distraction. And why not? As I said, winning the Europa League is considerably easier when you don't care about Sundays anymore.

The inzaghi links the week before the CL final are bizarre. I'd say there is zero chance of us getting him anyway. Must be AC Milan journalists spreading lies to distract Inter before the CL final. Its a nasty business.

Hope no fans are actually buying them stories. You'll be left very underwhelmed if you think there is even a chance of us getting Inzaghi.
Inzahgi is off to Saudi i believe
 
This must be what they were referring to on SC :D

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b) "ineffable nous"? Vague fluff.
It's absolutely vague fluff and I'm as eager for concrete facts and analysis as anybody.

And yet, Jose Mourinho couldn't defend a 2-0 lead for one half in Zagreb whose manager was in prison, and Ange Postecoglu parked the bus to glory in Bilbao.

He said he would do it, something so many others have failed at, and it happened.

What specifically is it that Mason did, tactically, in his short spells at the helm for us, that makes him less of a competent tactician that Ange.
I mean Jesus Christ, did you watch that cup final?
 
It's absolutely vague fluff and I'm as eager for concrete facts and analysis as anybody.

And yet, Jose Mourinho couldn't defend a 2-0 lead for one half in Zagreb whose manager was in prison, and Ange Postecoglu parked the bus to glory in Bilbao.

He said he would do it, something so many others have failed at, and it happened.


I mean Jesus Christ, did you watch that cup final?
You're not answering my question.
 
What do you actually bring to this board? is your whole existence to troll? are you actually Spurs?

I'm honestly being genuine. I get it you want a reaction but what is your overall goal? it's clear you have little to no intention debating but I don't think you fully understand how pathetic you come across.

Like this board is a 'debate'

If it was 90% of it wouldn't exist because it's the same thing being said over and over again
 
It's absolutely vague fluff and I'm as eager for concrete facts and analysis as anybody.

And yet, Jose Mourinho couldn't defend a 2-0 lead for one half in Zagreb whose manager was in prison, and Ange Postecoglu parked the bus to glory in Bilbao.

He said he would do it, something so many others have failed at, and it happened.


I mean Jesus Christ, did you watch that cup final?

Jose Mourinho was fucking finished at this point, and it’s pretty clear that a) the squad really did hate him at that point and b) we had other stuff to play for as well as this game and there was rotation involved.

Europa for prem teams is all about motivation. Do they want to put the energy in to it that some continental sides do. Zagreb wanted it a lot more that day.
 
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