So typical innit- first European trophy in 40 years, Champions League and Super Cup to play for..and we don't know if we're keeping the manager haha
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So typical innit- first European trophy in 40 years, Champions League and Super Cup to play for..and we don't know if we're keeping the manager haha
So back to being a Cup team?
Yes..what the Romans ever do for us?
We knocked Man City out of the EFL Cup (and thrashed them in the EPL).
We beat Liverpool in the first leg. May have been a different result in the 2nd leg if we had our best squad available.
If the injury crisis is all down to Ange - please explain Sessegnon, Lamela, Lo Celso, Ndombelly, Dier, Dele, Rose, Kane, Romero (he missed more matches in the 21/22 season under Conte).
Spurs have a long history of injuries to key players - and an inability to get them back to full fitness after injury. An injury crisis lost Mourinho his job; and arguably hurt our chances in the Champions League final.
What this season has shown is the problems at United are nothing to do with the Manager. Ten Haag, Amiron - these aren't poor coaches. The club is in a total mess. Overspent and under achieved. Ageing facilities and living on past glories.
The difference is, Ange has bonded with the squad and created a group of players and staff that will die for each other. This is a solid foundation to build something special.
At United, players are giving interviews calling out the club and other players. Asking to leave.
At Spurs players are backing the manager and declaring their love for the club and the journey ahead.
There are actually mean managers who make players play defense. Thankfully, our guys aren't exposed to that level of insensitivity.
And there we have it, in case there is anyone who still thinks LEVY/ENIC support Spurs.
Oh, it does.
Name me one manager (including double and treble winners) who have managers that have "sacrificed" PL position for a Cup win.
Name me just one, who has forgone winning in the PL for a single Cup?
Spurs Poch - 3 wins from final 12 league games when we reach Champions League Final.
Chelsea Di Matteo - 11/12 Champions league. 6th in the league.
Wigan - relegated, but won cup
Livepool (dalglish) - 11/12 - Went all in for domestic cups. Finished 8th. Won 4 of their final 20 league games.
He's pretty close to someone at the club from what I understand and it's interesting that he is aware that some high up in the club have lost all faith.
If Paratici does indeed return, i just can't see him wanting Ange, and for sure i cannot believe that Venkatesham would entertain Ange being manager next season.
It's funny Levy and Ange are probably on some holidays in first class resorts now and fans are still bickering in countless circles about their futures less than a week after a historic win.
What, you don't agree with the facts?
You related to Arteta?
It is a tricky situation. If Ange goes, it's certainly possible that our best players may follow him out the door (Son, Porro, Romero) - and our rebuild goes back to square one.
Can Spurs attract an elite coach? and would an elite coach be interested in a predominantly young squad that requires developing? Gone are the days of prime Kane/Son who you can build a team around. We don't have any elite player that the team can be built around.
At the end of the day, the league performances were unacceptable without our key players on the pitch. When we got them back, we had already decided to bin off the league.
If the squad stays largely AS-IS - Ange should probably go. He cannot get a consistent tune out of the reserve players.
If we are improving the squad - Ange should stay, and we should get the players he needs.
I firmly believe, if we give Ange the players he will win bring further trophies to Spurs and win the league in his 4th season.
I think winning a big European cup transforms the club more than if we’d finished in fourth to achieve the same champions league qualification. There’s a big sign on the stadium now that says ‘Winners’. There will be pictures around the club and stadium of Bilbao. The spursy banter club evaporated. You have to give Ange a chance at working with the players with the new mentality, not having to convince them that they’re winners, because there’s irrefutable evidence of it. It’ll be like coaching a different team. You have to give him that chance to see what he can do with them next after this transformation.
Seeing the Ange debacle makes you realise just how badly Poch was treated despite having Spurs playing at the highest level imaginable and getting sacked off the back of a 4th place finish and CL final all because he needed some money spent for the first time in his Tottenham career.
It was a huge fuck up that the club still hasnt recovered from and cost us hundreds of millions to try to rectify in the process.
It was a huge fuck up that the club still hasnt recovered from and cost us hundreds of millions to try to rectify in the process.
It's absolutely revisionist to just say Ange soley 'sacrificed' PL. Contextually, once the injuries occurred (and thus mid table mediocrity ensued) , then there were decisions to be made in Dec/Jan on where to place energy and effort, whilst the injuries were a) still occurring, b) players still had to rehabilitate and c) lack of team continuity.
Even my 9yo understands this, and can make sense of 'how' an outcome can be a particular thing (17th place), but is nuanced and full of context, rather than being so binary about a manager.
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The revisionist yarns being spun by the Ange Innies that he was intentionally throwing the league games in January for a Europa final in May is just a silly lie, not even a good one. He was playing whomever was available until the semifinal round. He was losing with anyone who was available. The talk was always about players being rushed back from injury, not their being shelved for April and May. This is just excuse-making for the inexcusable league season.
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I don't think that's what Mr Engorged of the Onion meant.