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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Donki said:
The mental gymnastics is strong with you, therefore Ange didn’t get us the league position? But yet fans call for his head?
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I smell, smell agenda and the usual rule bending. I think if you looked a little deeper than your out look Poch got us to a few finals and semifinals. Also a title race. But as you say, was nothing to do with him, it was the squad.
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We lost 22 games and got 1ppg all season.
And you say I have strong mental gymnastic skills?
 
harry7 said:
Targets next year - win the champions league, and win the premier league. If you aren't in it to win it, don't bother.

FA cup and League cup for the kids to get us through to the quarters, then the seniors if fixtures allow.

Without doubt, Ange is here to win - not play for 5th and the milk cup.
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Take your meds.

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Matt1882 said:
We lost 22 games and got 1ppg all season.
And you say I have strong mental gymnastic skills?
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You said it’s the squad that got us the league position? I’m not playing any kind of gymnastics, I’m using your thoughts on our current situation, you are changing the goal posts here, with Poch it was the squad…. With Ange it’s all on him?
 
At this stage, I'd nearly accept Ange being fired right now if it would stop the endless, boring, post after post, from the usual suspects spouting the same horseshit over and over again. Responding to them just gives them oxygen.

Of course, the reality is that when a new manager comes in the whole process will start again. Rinse and fucking repeat. Closet Gooners for the most part.
 
Charlie F said:
Son used to be able to.
Johnson and Solanke - impossible.
Neither can beat man, Neither can shoot from anything other than close range.
Neither can run with the ball even without beating a man.

Our attacking play is scrappy - in the last ten PL games have we even scored a proper goal?

Werner was our most exciting forward - when he had the ball at his feet- there was a level of expectation.

Johnson is lauded for scoring the winner in the final - he either didn't touch it ( most likely) or it was a miss hit.

Solanke is hailed for chasing their defenders. So much so that he 8s knackered - when he does get a chance.
CL final breakaway a clear example.

Ange has played turgid attacking football - and been reckless in defence . Quite an achievement.
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I don't understand why we spent £60m on Solanke
 
Donki said:
You said it’s the squad that got us the league position? I’m not playing any kind of gymnastics, I’m using your thoughts on our current situation, you are changing the goal posts here, with Poch it was the squad…. With Ange it’s all on him?
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But you have praised Ange for winning a cup. If he won the cup, like you said he did, then he is equally as responsible for finishing 17th.
Poch got 2 cup finals, both of which were harder to get to and was 90 minutes away from from winning them. He also got 2nd place, 3rd place, 4th place and his worst was 5th.

I'm not even a massive fanboi. He had to go when he did. His first season wasn't inspiring.
But we were never as bad as we have been this season. Cup win or not.
 
Percy Clay said:
At this stage, I'd nearly accept Ange being fired right now if it would stop the endless, boring, post after post, from the usual suspects spouting the same horseshit over and over again. Responding to them just gives them oxygen.

Of course, the reality is that when a new manager comes in the whole process will start again. Rinse and fucking repeat. Closet Gooners for the most part.
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Just for clarity then, you think we should keep Ange "just because" ?
 
The Absolute GOAT said:
I expect what you don't understand would fill several hundred encyclopedias.

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It’s hard being an ancient philosopher adjusting to the pace of the modern world.

If he’s the Brazilian midfielder he played a World Cup with the equivalent of a piece of wood as CF in Serginho so he should understand exactly why we got Solanke.

I never appreciated just his awful their CF was in Spain 82. Makes Solanke look like Marco van basten.
 
Socrates said:
I don't understand why we spent £60m on Solanke
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How many strikers in the league are better then Solanke?

Haaland and Isak 100%. After that? Watkins is probably rater higher but I wouldn't swap.

Havertz? No. Jackson? No. Delap? Not yet. Wissa or Wood? Good seasons but no better than what Solanke did the year before at Bournemouth. Who else is there?

Solanke also looks like a real leader and leads the press very well. Works tirelessly and has a good attitude.

I really don't think we waisted 60m on him. We have a few problems in our squad but he is not one of them!
 
Matt1882 said:
But you have praised Ange for winning a cup. If he won the cup, like you said he did, then he is equally as responsible for finishing 17th.
Poch got 2 cup finals, both of which were harder to get to and was 90 minutes away from from winning them. He also got 2nd place, 3rd place, 4th place and his worst was 5th.

I'm not even a massive fanboi. He had to go when he did. His first season wasn't inspiring.
But we were never as bad as we have been this season. Cup win or not.
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I praise Ange and the squad for winning it, it’s the whole, *it’s in spite of himself, *second tier title* shot that erks me. The league form not good enough, no problem saying it. It’s the whole fact we have cried out for a trophy, it’s certainly better than a League Cup, in comparison to the FA Cup… it’s only an opinion but I’d say they are equal in the rewards. I’m not hugely in on Ange but I’m getting more and more in as the reasoning of the hardliners out become more and more *I just don’t like the guy*, *him saying I win in the second season* etc etc, I base what I feel on facts rather than anything else, he has been here 2 seasons, the players seem to be on board, has a 5th and a trophy. The alternative is another reset, and we go again…. There is no gaurantee a new manager will be the greener field, there is no gaurantee Ange will get a a balance. The cup win edged it for me.
 
Matt1882 said:
But you have praised Ange for winning a cup. If he won the cup, like you said he did, then he is equally as responsible for finishing 17th.
Poch got 2 cup finals, both of which were harder to get to and was 90 minutes away from from winning them. He also got 2nd place, 3rd place, 4th place and his worst was 5th.

I'm not even a massive fanboi. He had to go when he did. His first season wasn't inspiring.
But we were never as bad as we have been this season. Cup win or not.
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nah not true at all, Poch had a baby path to the league cup final. proper easy mode setting

we faced Nottingham forest of the championship, followed by Brighton of the championship, followed by 15th placed Newcastle managed by Pardew and finally sheff united of league one.
first decent team was Chelsea in the final and we didn't lay a glove on them for 90 mins. 2-0
 
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