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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Yeah I appreciate that because I watch games on tv and there were games last season that I didn’t watch out which I just don’t do I watch them from the first to the last minute, it must have been a chore actually going to games in the league! Winning the Europa through a curve ball at Levy cos if we’d lost we’d no be having this discussion he’d be gone by now! Personally I as I said by winning the cup he deserved to start the campaign but as you’ve stated we could start the league and lose the first two, three games and we’re fucked then every club has their manager in place only ones that are available are available for a reason.
He’ll go to rangers
To be honest, I think if he does get sacked, then it is because the club have seen through the bullshit that is the idea that he chose to not take the league seriously. He has been consistently found out in the league for the majority of the last 2 years, and it clearly hasn't been injuries or any other mitigating factor because we have been the same with and without a full squad in the league.
Winning a cup and getting relegated didn't do much for Swansea, Wigan, or Birmingham - so we shouldn't be so tin pot to accept it ourselves
I loved the Europa League run but if we’re being honest we had a fortunate series of ties in the knockout stage.
Do those who want Ange to stay actually envisage a future where the big man is able to maintain top 6 position in the league while also performing in the cups?
I’m sorry but even with the most rose tinted glasses it has been clear for about 8 months that Ange Postecoglu hasn’t got a single clue how to maintain any kind of level in the league or even string a couple of consecutive wins together. I’m afraid the posthumous assertions by Ange that the focus completely changed to the Europa League is both disingenuous and disconcerting. So he just threw the league? We were bloody lucky that the bottom 3 were so shit, in many other seasons we would’ve been relegated.
Thanks a million Ange, but I don’t trust you to take this team up a level next season. That’s what happens when you finish 17th in the league, people doubt your ability. It’s not crazy to think this way.
Do those who want Ange to stay actually envisage a future where the big man is able to maintain top 6 position in the league while also performing in the cups?
I’m sorry but even with the most rose tinted glasses it has been clear for about 8 months that Ange Postecoglu hasn’t got a single clue how to maintain any kind of level in the league or even string a couple of consecutive wins together. I’m afraid the posthumous assertions by Ange that the focus completely changed to the Europa League is both disingenuous and disconcerting. So he just threw the league? We were bloody lucky that the bottom 3 were so shit, in many other seasons we would’ve been relegated.
Thanks a million Ange, but I don’t trust you to take this team up a level next season. That’s what happens when you finish 17th in the league, people doubt your ability. It’s not crazy to think this way.
Ange has taken us far too close to the relegation places with only Europa League football to contend with - a competition where the league phase can be navigated with quite a lot of rotated lineups.
It would be an incredible gamble from Levy to give Ange another go with a much tougher competition to go alongside the league games. Our league form for the past 50 odd games is pretty bad and has been downright awful the longer the season went on.
Any new manager is a gamble, but the bigger gamble in my opinion is keeping Ange and crossing our fingers.
It would be an incredible gamble from Levy to give Ange another go with a much tougher competition to go alongside the league games. Our league form for the past 50 odd games is pretty bad and has been downright awful the longer the season went on.
Any new manager is a gamble, but the bigger gamble in my opinion is keeping Ange and crossing our fingers.
With the right investment in squad depth and better management of their efforts to keep the squad rotated and fit, yes, I do.
The worst part about it is the complete inability to simply agree to disagree. So somebody else has a different opinion? Should you just accept it and be brave enough to live in a world where people disagree with you, or do you need to try and police everyone's opinion, and then try and tar everyone as "disloyal" who won't agree with you?
If you end up resorting to option #2, you're just not mentally strong or mature enough to handle free speech. End of.
Agreed. I'm hoping all his Cultists fuck off with him to whatever pub league side he manages next
It took Sir Alex 7 years to win his first Premier League.
Mason and co. finished 8th with Kane. We sold Kane and you still expected us to do as well as Conte did? You need to wake up. Ange never had a chance when he took this job. Frank will be in the same back to square one position.
Since when did prime Sir Alex or Jose have the 7th best team in wages in the league? Where exactly do you think Frank will finish? Better than 8th with Europe? Because even Ancelotti couldn't win a damn thing with Everton and I think he is better than Frank for managing an average club with European football and the Premier League in his first season.
If Ange isn't winning anything again with Spurs it will be because he is sacked before he can, just like every other manager - not backed with better substitutes for the likes of Romero and Bissouma as an example.
Levy is Abramovich without the wage structure and world class recruitment. Frank is a Nuno type appointment in terms of he did well at smaller club and we're trying to reverse engineer the Poch signing again without the adequate recruitment department to back any manager for any trophies.
Ange beat Man City twice this season, once in the FA Cup. He beat Liverpool once this season in the League Cup. Those are things he could not do in his first season. If he had his first choice back 7 fit and made the full backs sit he could get a result against anybody. Obviously a lot of that is his fault but some of it is not and I expect him to improve.
If he stays, I expect him to finally beat Woolwich next season and I expect him to do better domestically in the league and the cups. If it is going tits up after ten games, sack him like Ramos.
It's embarrassing he couldn't engineer some draws against the bottom half of the table. As a quality Prem manager, you absolutely HAVE to be able to do that, especially when you are going through "an injury crisis" (even if it was of your own making because of suicide tactics and pigheaded unwillingness to rotate).
I think he/the squad lost interest in the league at some point but that says a lot about his ability as a manager to coach a base level which is high enough to win weekly without it needing to be a cup final for the players to track back and to give a shit. I've said it before but if the players loved him so much all they had to do was put in respectable performances week to week. They looked like they couldn't be arsed. Talking about how upset the dressing would be if he's sacked ... fuck off lads, bust a gut vs Leicester, Ipswich, Wolves etc and he'd have been safe.
We were absolutely abysmal at the tail end of last season when the league was our everything and just one or two more wins would've qualified us for the CL. Lost every single game against a decent team. And we started this season not being able to beat Leicester. Long before the league was a lost cause we were crap against premier league calibre opposition on a weekly basis barring the odd huge game like City.
The amount of excuses and nonsense chatted about this guy is crazy.
Yes.
Did we play Romero & VDV together at the back for a single PL game post Christmas?
He sacked the league off, even the players have come and out and said as much. We can take umbrage at that but he won the trophy he said he would win and that got us into the Champions league. So the league position was utterly meaningless and will be forgotten about by the end of next season.
I back this squad with a couple of experienced additions and sensible injuries to finish top 6.
Now if a proper World class manager could be convinced to come with a CV of trophies and promised a war chest and actually provided with the signings he wants then and only then could I justify getting rid of Ange.
And I'd still rather have that as a backup after 10 games.
But for Brentford or Fulhams manager? No fucking thanks...
Fulham took 4/6 points from us with Raul Jiminez as striker. And Calvin Bassey as CB.
Many other teams in the Prem can't play Romero or VdV every week either. How on earth did they manage to accumulate any points at all?
TBH I think they only love him the same way that most of us loved the teacher(s) in school that let us get away with doing fuck all in the lessons.
Anyone with that attitude can happily get pissed off if we sack him because we're better off cashing in on players who don't care about losing a league game
Like Jose or Conte?
I’ve been going to and fro in my head about what’s best, still am to be honest but this tweet is pretty spot on.
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