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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 72 64.3%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.7%
  • Total voters
    112
Baldcunt is thick enough to wait until Mbeumo's been sold before he seals Frank and not tie it up early and have him persuade him to come with him.

Only a dufus misses that opportunity.
 
thinktank said:
Baldcunt is thick enough to wait until Mbeumo's been sold before he seals Frank and not tie it up early and have him persuade him to come with him.

Only a dufus misses that opportunity.
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We are going for Sane on a free. Mbuemo would be too ambitious for us.

Levy is dumb enough to believe that Mbuemo is good because of Frank and he can spend less on the mid table manager who will make cheap players good
 
MemphisWill said:
Until Brentford show they can do it without Frank, its most likely, as is typical, the manager was the chief factor in their success and not their front office like Brighton (who have sustained similar results across several managers).
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I think people eagerly overlook that Brighton's managerial selection has also been very astute since Potter left, De Zerbi had led Sassuolo, now a serie B team (albeit coming back up next season) to consecutive 8th placed finishes, then would have gone and won a title in Ukraine had a war not ended the season early. Likewise Hurzeler is considered one of the most promising young coaches in Europe, and they had the funds from various player sales to build a properly solid mid-table PL side to support that promising young coach with. Granted the backroom team were in charge of those appointments but think we're a bit eager to overlook the tactical evolution those coaches have brought to Brighton's play in their own right, they are far more entertaining to watch now than they ever were under Potter and there was no sense they were eager to part with Potter of their own volition any time soon.
 
Ionman34 said:
Absolutely.

I do believe the club have a plan, which is essentially spearheaded by the likes of Lange and, hopefully, Paratici. They've focussed on young talent integration so we have a solid, talented core in place for the next 5-10 years with a certain style of Football that they want to play. I believe that was why Postecoglou was brought in in the first place, as his was the brand of exciting, attack minded Football that the club wanted and we craved. For a number of reasons it hasn't worked out, but I still think that is the philosophy that the club will continue to pursue.
Frank does have that in his locker, so I can see the appeal, but I do have reservations on whether he can translate that to a higher level with a great deal more pressure to succeed. As I said, there's a World of difference between matching the expectations of a club like Brentford, and matching ours. Add in the additional pressure of taking over from the man who's just won our first major trophy in 17 years, and he could end up floundering.

Conversely, he could smash it out of the park, but whatever way you look at it, it's a rather large gamble.

Personally, I think he'd at least stabilise us in the short term, it remains to be seen whether he has the chops to go up another level in the long term. If he stabilises us for a couple of seasons, I'd be happy to have him longer to build on that.
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All fair points.

I think a big part of the pressure for all incoming manager has actually gone. We can't win the CL and no one with brain cell will say different. That relieves the trophy part and then it's just doing better than 17th, but mostly, it's about building a team that looks competent.

But it will take something quite astonishing to preside over worse than this season, glorious Europa apart.
 
With the World Cup rolling around next year, my theory is someone like Frank is a low risk punt to stop the pendulum swinging wildly from week to week and get some semblance of consistency back into the league.

If Frank fails to qualify for any European spot, he'll be fired and a larger pool of Managers will be available to Levy after the World Cup.
 
I still feel like they're going to keep him going into next season. I personally think that doing nothing is the absolute wrong choice.. But it's the one that gets the least backlash from the press. Which even though it shouldn't matter, I think it will do. The club will think that they should wait until he's had a bad start (if that was to happen), and then make the change whilst comparatively coming up smelling of roses.. They'll have wasted a summer where they could do good work with a new coach, but they'll have avoided the whole "sacked the first manager to win something in 17 years" palava.

It's the reactive, safe choice.. And that is always the choice I put money on this club taking.
 
FightingIllini said:
In this modern strong period since 20/21 Bodo/Glimt have played 38 home games in Europe.

They've won 30 of them, including beating the likes of Roma, Lazio, Besiktas, Porto, Olympiacos, Twente, AZ, Dinamo Zagreb, and yes, Ange Postecoglu's Celtic. And scoring an absolute shedload of goals doing it, they've run riot pinging it about on that plastic pitch.

In those 38 games, including matches with Woolwich and Ajax, Spurs were the first team to beat them in Bodo by more than one goal.

We completely erased them in that game, which was a bigger feat than it got credit for.
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Bodo did fuck all away from home, ever.

Obvious home advantage playing at -40, in six feet of snow on a dangerous plastic pitch (which UEFA shouldn't even sanction), and where the Sun sets at two in the afternoon.

Don't try and big them up.
 
ange has won 2 premierships with south melbourne , 2 premierships with brisbane roar, 1 premiership with yokahama marinos the first trophy in 15 years for that club, 2 premierships 1 cup and 2 league cups with celtic, has won the asian cup with the australian national team first time ever, and 1 uefa europa league with spurs. coached at a world cup.
 
Pythagoras said:
ange has won 2 premierships with south melbourne , 2 premierships with brisbane roar, 1 premiership with yokahama marinos the first trophy in 15 years for that club, 2 premierships 1 cup and 2 league cups with celtic, has won the asian cup with the australian national team first time ever, and 1 uefa europa league with spurs. coached at a world cup.
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And secured Tottenham Hotspur's lowest league finish in 48 years. Don't forget that generational accolade.
 
Pythagoras said:
ange has won 2 premierships with south melbourne , 2 premierships with brisbane roar, 1 premiership with yokahama marinos the first trophy in 15 years for that club, 2 premierships 1 cup and 2 league cups with celtic, has won the asian cup with the australian national team first time ever, and 1 uefa europa league with spurs. coached at a world cup.
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He's Tottenham's worst manager in decades and would have had us in a relegation scrap if the relegated teams weren't all so poor.

If he wants to go win matches in Australia or at Celtic where the next man you see walking by on the street could win the treble, fine. He should get out of the PL because he's out of his depth
 
kcspurs said:
He's Tottenham's worst manager in decades and would have had us in a relegation scrap if the relegated teams weren't all so poor.

If he wants to go win matches in Australia or at Celtic where the next man you see walking by on the street could win the treble, fine. He should get out of the PL because he's out of his depth
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he did finish in 5th position in his first year with no harry kane ,which qualified for europe ,giving spurs their 1st title in 17 years
 
If Daniel Levy will still be in charge, Spurs will always have less in terms of quality than our balance sheet says we should have. Everyone here knows this. Therefore tactical flexibility should in my opinion be at the forefront of what we look for in a new manager.

We have all seen what the Ange idea results in, he was figured completely out after 10 games or so in his first year, and after this even Championship sides in cup matches could stymie our attack. We don't have the sort of quality to play like Enrique Barcelona and we never will. We'll always need to adjust to our opponents and tactical genius is important. Ange simply does not have this in his locker.
 
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