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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
I mean anyone can beat United. City is always a nice scalp.

Including Liverpool when it was a first leg and we immediately got our heads caved in at Anfield is laughable though.

We were always getting our heads caved by Liverpool with the 11 we were able to put out.

That first leg win was one of the best nights I've enjoyed at Spurs. Fantastic backs to the wall win.
 
sure this is a smart way to live life but on the other hand, for many, week to week spurs is our major outside interest and hobby and how we interact with friends etc.. the last year and a half has been miserable and we want our tottenham back.
I'd class myself as one of those people tbh, even throughout this season I'd look forward to every game, I guess with a faint slither of hope, which would often be extinguished withing the first 10 minutes.

Kind of a got to laugh unless you'd cry situation.
 
I mean anyone can beat United. City is always a nice scalp.

Including Liverpool when it was a first leg and we immediately got our heads caved in at Anfield is laughable though.
We were a dead certainty to get our heads caved in in the home leg too, yet somehow didn't.

Here was our bench when we defeated league champions Liverpool:

Austin, Dorrington, Reguilon, Olusesi, Werner, Moore, Yang, Johnson, Lankshear.
 
We were a dead certainty to get our heads caved in in the home leg too, yet somehow didn't.

Here was our bench when we defeated league champions Liverpool:

Austin, Dorrington, Reguilon, Olusesi, Werner, Moore, Yang, Johnson, Lankshear.

Embarrassing mate. Actually embarrassing.

‘Defeated’ - it was a first leg which is essentially half time. You haven’t ‘won’ anything after a first leg.

They tuned us up for fun in the second and overrode our ‘win’ before we could blink. And then we could do nothing.

The Postecoglites don’t like to remember that bit though.
 
Anyone who champions Ange and Ange-Ball is a football incompetent! That includes any of our current squad. What!! I hear you say!
I'll back that statement up by asking how many top players have failed as top managers? More than have succeeded is the answer you are looking for.
Uh huh. And how many posters here have scaled the footballing heights to become top managers? Zero is the answer you’re looking for. Why does that matter I hear you say? Because I’ll take the opinion of World Cup and FA Cup winners and top Premier League players who work with the person in question on a daily basis over you chaps 100 out of 100 times, no offence bros.
 
We were always getting our heads caved by Liverpool with the 11 we were able to put out.

We had a goal lead and Conte put out an overall worse overall team and got a draw at Anfield. They created nothing.

We didn’t even turn up. Absolutely irrelevant and pointless doing any work in a first leg to get pumped 4-0 and not even be present for the second. Like turning up for a single half of football.
 
We have a chance. We need to decide what we want to be: Australia winning the Asian Cup or Celtic winning the domestic Treble. Ange has already done the former. Are we going to give him the chance to do the latter?
With the greatest of respect, Celtic spend three or four times the amount on wages as the third biggest spenders in their league. Rangers and Celtic are the only clubs who ever splash out over £1m on transfer fees.

The odds are so heavily stacked in the favour of any Celtic manager that it's never going to translate into the premier league.
 
The biggest misconception about Ange is - he is a manager who does well offensively and not defensively.
If anything it's the other way round - our defense is better than the attack and almost the sole reason we won the EL.

Ange has so far he does not have much of a scooby do how to create a good attacking unit
I think that his biggest strength is man management/motivation, although I'd question the man management bit personally given how he's handled Spence and Gray. But he clearly knows how to get into people's heads.

Where he struggles is tactically. If he wasn't so puritanical about what type of football that he wants to play he could find a set of tactically astute assistants so that he himself could focus on the motivation bit and he would be a much better manager for it.
 
We have a chance. We need to decide what we want to be: Australia winning the Asian Cup or Celtic winning the domestic Treble. Ange has already done the former. Are we going to give him the chance to do the latter?

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Yeah all we have to do is give him a chance and he’ll win a treble. Guy who has had two seasons with not one top 4 finish and just finished 17th. Maybe beating Woolwich or Chelsea just once could be a mini objective before treble glory, eh?

You know to win a treble you need to beat elite prem sides, yeah? Not Elfsborg and Bodo on the way to a final with United. Like you have to beat City and Liverpool.
 
Embarrassing mate. Actually embarrassing.

‘Defeated’ - it was a first leg which is essentially half time. You haven’t ‘won’ anything after a first leg.

They tuned us up for fun in the second and overrode our ‘win’ before we could blink. And then we could do nothing.

The Postecoglites don’t like to remember that bit though.
It was a shocking performance sure enough. Against one of the form teams in Europe at the time though, the eventual Premier League champions, with a goalkeeper playing his 3rd match (?) a CB pairing of Davies and Danso, with no Romero, no VDV, no Solanke, no Maddison, no Johnson, no Udogie.

But I guess context only goes one way, aye?
 
How many managers have done that at Spurs?
Do you really think there's something unique in our case that disbars that possibility? We had top 8 finishes and cup final appearances under Redknapp, Poch x2 and Mourinho/Mason. We lost the CC final under Redknapp on penalties. Are you saying divine intervention prevented us from winning that final because we were too high up the league at the time? Or that despite the teams being unable to be separated after 120 minutes (the same Fergie Utd side that were the reigning CL AND PL champions at the time btw) there was some failing on the part of Redknapp or Levy/the board that we lost a shootout?
I watched us lift a trophy, you may have missed that. :angecup:
I watched it. Doesn't erase all the times I watched us get dicked down by absolute dross in the league though, or watching team performances get steadily worse in the league for 18 months.
 
It was a shocking performance sure enough. Against one of the form teams in Europe at the time though, the eventual Premier League champions, with a goalkeeper playing his 3rd match (?) a CB pairing of Davies and Danso, with no Romero, no VDV, no Solanke, no Maddison, no Johnson, no Udogie.

But I guess context only goes one way, aye?

Yeah mate because an underdog side with a lead has never put in a respectable performance before in their lives. It’s totally acceptable to just lose 4-0 and do nothing for the entire game because we had players missing.

Nobody expected us to win. But then this is the mastermind behind losing to Leicester and Ipswich (AT HOME) and throwing men forward while down to 9 just to prove a point. God knows what his schizophrenic fans will argue next.
 
Do you really think there's something unique in our case that disbars that possibility? We had top 8 finishes and cup final appearances under Redknapp, Poch x2 and Mourinho/Mason. We lost the CC final under Redknapp on penalties. Are you saying divine intervention prevented us from winning that final because we were too high up the league at the time? Or that despite the teams being unable to be separated after 120 minutes (the same Fergie Utd side that were the reigning CL AND PL champions at the time btw) there was some failing on the part of Redknapp or Levy/the board that we lost a shootout?

I watched it. Doesn't erase all the times I watched us get dicked down by absolute dross in the league though, or watching team performances get steadily worse in the league for 18 months.
There is no hex on the club. We haven't won things historically because we haven't had the right managers or the right players in place.

Going into next season more or less the same as the last does not rectify those errors, it repeats them.
 
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