Nail on the head. I guess they're looking for a steady, prem proven non ego manager after the chaos and tantrums of the last few fiascos. I can see why Glasner may be tricky now, although we should have him as first choice if thats the sort of criteria we're looking at.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Nope, not convinced myself everyone else is a downgrade. Just Frank.
You cannot categorically say with any conviction what will happen next year under Ange, Frank or anyone else. I could easily say that under Frank we will finish 9th/10th, get booted out of the CL in the group stages, lose in domestic cups before they even get going and find our season over with in Feb. That is what I can see happening under Frank and then I ask what was the point? Could achieve all that under Ange.
List of managers we could have tried to go for and can still go for...
Simone Inzaghi although he has gone to Saudi
Xavi
Hoeness
Todesco
Jaissle
even McKenna would be more inspiring than Frank
They could all play musical chairs and decide what obsession they are neck deep in at any given moment.
Well yes but they weren't ready made superstars. Their wage bill in the championship was lower midtable there too.
This is why I think he's a fit, he can work with a modest budget and make a squad more than the sum of its parts. Because of we are honest, Champions League or not we're going to have a frugal transfer window whether that's with Frank, Ange, Poch, or Sudoku managing us.
It tells us we would be 9th which backs up my point... is there any point paying 10m in compensation to replace Ange with Frank.
It is my subjective opinion much as it is everyone else's subjective opinion that Frank is better than Ange and will lead us to glory.
That's a little unfair - he finished 3rd in his first full season, and got to the play-off final. By that point I'm pretty sure it was the highest Brentford had ever finished in their history
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Player very different. You have a 25 player squad and you only have one manager. You can take a few punts with players. Although we shouldn't be picking up the majority of our players from lower leagues. There is a reason they are playing in the lower leagues in the first place bar the odd 17 year old who looks like he might have a bright future.
Slot - inspired... 46, proven winner, shame we pissed him about when we had a serious chance of getting him.
I think most would agree that Frank has done a very good job in The EPL these past 4 seasons on a comparatively small budget for players and wages and he has done this consistently.
That would suggest to me that the bloke has to have a fair bit of tactical nous and can motivate players. Therefore in theory if you put that guy in an environment where he has a bigger budget and better players (yeah I know attitudes of better players can cause a different dynamic, but not sure we currently have any prima donnas at The Lane?) then you would think a 10th placed Brentford might transform into a top 5 Spurs?
That would suggest to me that the bloke has to have a fair bit of tactical nous and can motivate players. Therefore in theory if you put that guy in an environment where he has a bigger budget and better players (yeah I know attitudes of better players can cause a different dynamic, but not sure we currently have any prima donnas at The Lane?) then you would think a 10th placed Brentford might transform into a top 5 Spurs?
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Did Frank fuck your mum or something?
You've written him off because he finished 9th. McKenna just got relegated?
None of the rest have any PL experience at all but that's fine?
This is madness of a new level because you're not even an obvious cult member.
Right so 9th position under both coaches? Then I'm 100% going Frank. Purely on not absolutely destroying the health of the players and on Frank's ability to turn talent from nascent to established Raya Watkins Mbeumo Tony Wissa. I'm yet to see this level of finished product under Postecoglou. Frank isn't my 1st choice but after the last 2 years Europa or no Europa I'd not have Postecoglou in a top 10 list of appointments.
Then we disagree... cool... move on....
It's unfair for sure, I don't want to beat him with that five year old stick.
But still, it's crazy that they didn't walk the Championship with that team.
Daniel Farke dragged Teemu Pukki and Oliver Skipp above them. Wild.
I don’t think many fans think that at all, but it shouldn’t be used as the sole reason to retain a manager that has a dreadful record against superior opposition than faced in that cup run.
Other than the early stages of the domestic cups, all opposition to be faced in the 25/26 season will be of a much higher standard.
Why the need to bring my 89 year old mum into it... how sad.
Time to move on Matt. You think Frank is an upgrade and I don't.
I don't necessarily think Frank is the absolute best option out there we could get, but what the fuck is that list? Jaissle is in Saudi, his most recent job after being sacked on the eve of the new season by RB Salzburg, Todesco was so shit at Belgium Courtois literally refused to play for him, Hoeness just took Stuttgart to 9th in Bundesliga (essentially the same as Frank's 10th with Brentford since BL is an 18 team league, except they have the 7th largest wage bill in Bundesliga to Frank's 17th in PL) and Mckenna has just been relegated on 22 points. Xavi and Inzaghi granted, good names.
You bang on about Frank having no European experience but want to sign a manager in Todesco who, as RB Leipzig manager, managed to get knocked out of the Europa league by Rangers and lost 4-1 at home to a Shakhtar Donetsk side decimated by the exodus of non-Ukrainian internationals after the start of the war with Russia and stripped of their most promising player in Mudryk. Or one in Hoeness who finished 26th in the CL league stage. Hardly inspired.
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I think Frank is a definite upgrade on Ange. I really can’t see Ange keeping Brentford up for four seasons playing Kamikaze ball.
The question is whether it’s a big enough upgrade.
Something only time will tell should he be appointed.
So ange also didn't come 17th with us. That was a combined effort. We all did that together
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Forget those fantasies that Ange is going to do better because he'll have reinforcements
when did i say its tinpot? i think its the third most prestigious trophy after the league and the CL, but its still a long way from what it was when it was the UEFA cup.
point is you make out franks shit cos he aint won anything, whats he meant to of won? some shit leagues and cups that pub teams compete in. who gives a fuck that hes not got some tinpot shit on his resume, hes holding his own in the toughest league in the world and hes up against in when it comes to resources, thats far more respectable than winning some shit league that no one gives a fuck about.