It's a cult. At this point they may as well be that newsreader on North Korean state television.
Every time I think you have taken it as far as you can, you surpass yourself!
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Every time I think you have taken it as far as you can, you surpass yourself!
Good post.
Agree that we need to look at managerial options with PL experience, albeit Glasner's is somewhat limited.
View: https://x.com/spurotm/status/1930639751016534142?s=46&t=fbqxNuG9CT4qTaiJx8mBjg
This reads as a briefing from the club to Matt Law and roughly translates as:
We are about to sack a popular manager who just won us a trophy and we know the fans have been protesting to get us out BUT this time we promise it will be different. We will absolutely spend money on established players this time, we promise.
I think our league form will improve dramatically next season even with Ange.
From November to February this season, we had in my opinion the worst injury crisis I've ever seen at Spurs. Then from February onwards, it was clear that we were prioritising Europe and resting most of our team in all the league games. I don't think Romero and VDV started any league games together in 2025! So from November until May, we were never anywhere near full strength in any of our league games. I'm going to guess this won't be the case next year under any manager, be it Ange or not. Levy will drive home the message to go full strength in the league and rotate in other games if necessary (even CL).
For context, we played 12 games in the league last year before the injury crisis kicked in during the November international break. We were 7th in the league with 6 wins, 1 draw and 5 loses and a goal difference on +14. And that was the last time we were ever full strength in the league again for the remainder of the season. Vicario got injured after the City game and we rolled out the next week with Forster and a CB pairing of Dragusin and Davies. The rest is history. I know the first 12 games were not perfect. I know we lost at home to ipswich with our strongest team. But we were winning more games than we were losing! We aren't this bad!
Now I've no horse in this race. I really don't care if we sack him or not. I'm not going to pretend Ange has the answers or will dramatically change his approach next season. But I do think our league position is an absolute certainty to improve next season regardless of who the manager is. We will hit at least 50 points minimum and if I was to guess I think we could be in around the 60 point mark which will have us in around the European places, and just short of top 4. Playing your strongest team available every week in the league will make a massive difference. We didn't do this for most the season and you know what? It was worth it! For one season and one season only, our club binned off the league and won a trophy!
We are Spurs, we shouldn't be taking these kind of Nuno punts again.
BTW. Frank has managed in the PL for 4 seasons not 7 and has a best finish of 9th... if that is doing good then fair play.
The difference with Pochettino was that he was young, up and coming, hadn't reached his ceiling and whilst I accept it was a punt he actually did finish 8th in his one completed PL season (higher than anything Frank has achieved). Frank is a known commodity across his entire coaching career. What you see is what you get... a bloke who will win some, lose some, not trouble the big sides and finish somewhere in the middle of the pack... not good enough to worry the elite, not bad enough to get dragged into a relegation battle. With Frank, our new rightful place in the world order (Premier League) will be 9th or 10th.
Our record against City is freakish. It's as good as it is bad against that filthy club.
We have regressed re: Woolwich.
Postecoglou has failed to add value,or to create anything of substance.
Take the bloke out of it, and simply ask yourself are we really better now than when he arrived? That's 2 years to put something in place.
It's not a hard question.
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9 men in one game and fucking first leg of a tie we lost 4-1 in the other btw.
Winning our first European trophy in 41 years is nothing of substance?
Deary me
Have you convinced yourself that because we won the Europa league under Ange every one else is a downgrade?
We won't even be in the Europa League next season. We'll get spanked in the CL and we won't finish high enough in the PL to get back into the Europa league in 26/27 to give him another chance. Heck, we might not finish high enough to be in the PL in 26/27
You say you want Ange gone, but you're not willing to gamble on anyone else. Be brave. Fuck it. Throw caution to the wind. We have to try something else and we aren't employing a coach who's ceiling is 9th here.
This has been explained but you seem to chose to ignore it. I think Brentford could go down pretty quickly after Frank leaves, wherever he goes.
4 years. Before that he was busy not achieving automatic promotion from the Championship with Toney, Benrahma, Raya, Mbuemo, Janelt, Norgaard, etc.
They had an insane team for that division, with Frank's player development abilities playing a role in that of course.
It's a cult. Deny the truth that is evident and established. Rubbish any alternative, over inflate the achievements of our chosen one and overlook the multiple data points that if given longer he will cause the club real harm. I admire the people still bothering to contend them, but it's a waste of time. At this point they may as well be that newsreader on North Korean state television. When Postecoglou is replaced all these heroes of the upside and positivity will be queuing up to kick the new coach at every turn because their man was 'better'.
Cult of Ange v Cult of Levy.
Quite a match up. Wonder if they are both the same people?
Frank, yes 4 years in the PL. 7 in total. Apologies.
By your token we should not then sign players who aren't already at top clubs or from the lower leagues.
And Slot at Liverpool. Punt or inspired?
What’s your laundry got to do with anything?!Oh, the ironing.
You claim everybody you know wants Ange out...
Why can't you just accept the fact that not everybody agrees with you and also accept the possibility that you Ange Abusers might be in the minority among the fanbase?
Anyway the poll has rattled your and other's cages so my job here is done.
The irony is you accepting the validity of a poll on the cesspit that is X as fact!
You couldn’t make it up!
BTW I haven’t abused Ange other than to question his ability as a Premier League manager.
All we need is a sensible manager with ambitious transfers.
Slot would not get this team in champions league.
I reckon Ange would get this pool team playing some pretty good football TBF.
No manage can polish turds in the long run.
What do you suppose the mean average you are using for Frank tells us about the expected league position for Postecoglou? Go head tell us what we have too look forward to. As for your reached the coaching ceiling...its entirely your subjective opinion.
He gets 9th or 10th with Brentford already, with more resource you're saying he will be the same?
Terrible assessment.
Our league form under Poch from Jan to May in 2019 was 10 wins, 2 draws, 7 losses. 55% win ratio. Extrapolate it out to a whole season and he would be 4 pts worse off than Ange was last season with no Europe and out of both cups early. He did that whilst maintaining a CL push, getting to a league cup semi (only losing on penalties), and signing absolutely zero players for 3 windows in the process. Poch had not run out of ideas, he just wasn't ever given the tools to properly succeed. I hold the belief he should not have played a half-fit Kane in the final, even though I also would happily admit I don't think starting Lucas Moura would be very likely to have made a difference, but he was literally the only reason we were there in the first place. Despite that we certainly did not get walked over in the final, we played well enough where having a fully fit and sharp Kane would have 100% been a huge "what if" factor in a different outcome.
Yes, 4 years in the PL. My mistake.
Look mate. I think Frank is okay, but that's not really the point.
The issue is the absolute paucity of Postecoglou, and that in my opinion we must change things.
It's up to Levy to find that objectively best option. Let's not make this Frank or Postecoglou, because even on that binary choice I think it's easy.
Fair enough but we ain't getting the best players, so we need a better manager. Much better.
The very best players would not want to be coached by Postecoglou in my opinion. Not a chance.