Depends how it’s paid and the conditions I guess
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Management Levy / ENIC
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All valid questions that no one ever wants to answer, though.
Sometimes - certainly on reddit - it seems like young or new fans turn up and think it's like some sort of tradition or rite of passage to throw shade at the club like that, and don't actually have the foggiest notion of how fucking depressing it was in the 90s
Quite skillful trolling here, good craftsmanship to it.
I don't know why rationality is trolling, but whatever.
Kind of is though isn't it. Anyone who was a supporter in that time would have seen a sleepy sugar let the other clubs accelerate away whilst spunking all the cash on awful players, and hiring awful managers. You could be forgiven for thinking Sugar was an Woolwich fan trying to discretely damage us on purpose. It feels so weird to me to have seen the slow but progressive restoration of where the club was, to where we've got to - considering all football gods have done to try and hold us back (in the sense of the landscape changing, weird rules and things that affected only us, stadium bans when we'd finally opened the new stadium etc).
I, respectfully, disagree. Sure, after Sugar, most fans would have had some sympathy/a grace period, but he’s been at it a quarter of a century now, with, I think someone counted 9 reorganisations of the club and less trophy success than we should have had in that time period.
Based on what metrics?
If we're basing it off how football "used to be", then totally not. The PL era introduced solid monopolies that have only worsened over the last 20 years or so.
Our closest 'rivals' in stature were Villa and Everton. Their last trophies were in 1996 and 1995.
I think the issue at times is people comparing us to Liverpool, Man Utd, and Woolwich. We were never a team that regularly won titles but for maybe 3 distinct, short-lived patches of time.
Sure hun
You need to give us shit that we can inject and feel broken before we will ever get behind it
He only said that afterwards when it become apparent we wouldn’t pay, Slot was gettable but he wanted his coaches and the fee escalated. When it collapsed he then said he wanted to stay. I believe even one of the board actually called him out on it as well so he lied. He also through shade at Trent for wanting to leave Liverpool to Madrid. For all the Slot’s nice guy image he has another side to him. £15m is a lot but he is a pretty elite coach.
REVEALED: Tottenham chiefs startled at £15m Arne Slot fee
SAMI MOKBEL AND MATT BARLOW: Spurs turned their attention to identifying new managerial candidates on Thursday after Slot said he was staying at Feyenoord and wanted to sign a new deal.www.dailymail.co.uk
Actually Slot said it was for 99% family reason he did not come
So you're satisfied with us finishing in 17th place then . He hires these so called football directors and then tells them what to do . He has a hand in every deal the club does causing us to end up with a poor second rate players instead of our original first choice , because he won't budge on his own valuation of players . I'm not trying to paint an ugly side of him , the fact is he micro manages us and then doesn't want to take any of the blame . Why do you think there's protests outside the ground ? I'll give you a clue - We're one of the richest clubs in Europe and we behave like a small club when it comes to buying top talent . Typical trying to pull the wool over the supporters eyes - instead of paying the going rate for Bruno Fernandez , he went and bought Gedson Fernandez . "Why" - because he wouldn't pay what he was worth and he thought we'd be stupid enough not to notice .
You keep sticking up for him if it floats your boat . But instead of being pro-active and going out and buying an £80mil player to give us the edge when it comes to winning honours , he'll sit back and let the house fall down around him , then he'll be re-active when the chips are down . I used to be a pro Levy , but you try travelling home when you've been pumped on the road by Toon , Everton , Liverpool , when they shut half the roads down and you get home at 2am to 4am in the morning - it rankles because we've got a poor squad . I missed 5 games last season . I went to nearly every game home and away . Levy said this new stadium would be a game changer - it's changed us all right , we've ended up a worse run club because of it .
We've just had our first glory for 17yrs , and if counting Europe 41 yrs . Levy has been here more than half of that time . Who else do you suggest we blame then ?
No, and neither are the club, hence why they sacked Postecoglou and hence why I agree with that
Evidence? People contradict this all the time and there's no evidence for it at all.
John Thomas has been posted on here for over 12 years saying nothing but club bashing stuff. He's probably one of the 15 people who do it. Nothing better to do and an obsession.
Ignoring that Poch wanted Lo Celso instead
Why does there have to be "blame"? We've been in countless finals and semi finals over the years. We had an amazing season unbeaten at home. Why didn't we win the title? Because the PL let Chelsea cheat their way for 20 years. They also let City cheat their way, and have spent what? 3 or 4 years whimpering about doing something about the 110+ charges whilst stamping on everton mercilessly.
IMO people take things out on the club/levy that should be directed at the crooks who have shaped the league into the money laundering operation it is today
It's time we addressed the elephant in the room... for starters lose the spurs style of pretty football it's a complete failure we ain't won the title since 1951 and 1961 ok... (also disgraceful one second place since 1962 and the abysmal record at Woolwich and chelsea especially chelsea!! We didnt even beat them in the 90s when they were well shit!!)
I want the premier league the champions league the fa cup the coca cola cup and the charity shield and I want it yesterday mate!!
I supported this club cos we had legends like hoddle waddle gazza and lineker...then what 35 years of nothingness apart from the odd coca cola cup (the 97 branding has stuck sorry!!)...OK we won the europa but it's like red star Belgrade winning European cup 1991 no one remembers red star...we won by default because we had easy games and no champions league 3rd place drop down teams this year
Seriously Daniel won't let go I don't know why.. closest thing to Daniel doug Ellis he was stubborn like Daniel sat on his perch for decades of nothingness at villa til he was too old (and Daniels only early 60s)
I've had enough I don't have enough time for rebuild after rebuild...my boyhood dream of winning the premier league within 30 years is gone...I'd rather watch Sunday league than this boring shit...
So drop the pretty football sack off Enic and win by any means necessary or do one!! We need a rich oil baron (Saudi or quatari will do or even american money)
I want the league the champions league the fa cup the coca cola and the charity shield and I want it yesterday mate!! Levy and Enic get out of our club!! You can't take it with ya when you do finally croak (the money) can ya?!...stop this craziness now tottenham have won the title 1951 the great alf Ramsey in defence 1961 Bill Nicholson never forget that glory!! Don't have to be spursy!! OK we got the europa at least that's something but even the fa cup is harder to win than that palace had way harder games than us. (Also you were fucking lucky not to get relegated daniel the other 3 teams were so shit)..so get real and get rid of levy!!
I want the premier league the champions league the fa cup the coca cola cup and the charity shield and I want it yesterday mate!!
I supported this club cos we had legends like hoddle waddle gazza and lineker...then what 35 years of nothingness apart from the odd coca cola cup (the 97 branding has stuck sorry!!)...OK we won the europa but it's like red star Belgrade winning European cup 1991 no one remembers red star...we won by default because we had easy games and no champions league 3rd place drop down teams this year
Seriously Daniel won't let go I don't know why.. closest thing to Daniel doug Ellis he was stubborn like Daniel sat on his perch for decades of nothingness at villa til he was too old (and Daniels only early 60s)
I've had enough I don't have enough time for rebuild after rebuild...my boyhood dream of winning the premier league within 30 years is gone...I'd rather watch Sunday league than this boring shit...
So drop the pretty football sack off Enic and win by any means necessary or do one!! We need a rich oil baron (Saudi or quatari will do or even american money)
I want the league the champions league the fa cup the coca cola and the charity shield and I want it yesterday mate!! Levy and Enic get out of our club!! You can't take it with ya when you do finally croak (the money) can ya?!...stop this craziness now tottenham have won the title 1951 the great alf Ramsey in defence 1961 Bill Nicholson never forget that glory!! Don't have to be spursy!! OK we got the europa at least that's something but even the fa cup is harder to win than that palace had way harder games than us. (Also you were fucking lucky not to get relegated daniel the other 3 teams were so shit)..so get real and get rid of levy!!
Our penny pinching has cost us a lot more than a few cups . We don't have the players when it comes to needing that top top class that changes games . When was the last time we paid for a world class player - a statement marquee signing ?
We can't blame Chavski and C$teh for our shortcomings . We should have bought a lot of players that would have made the difference but Levy didn't want to pay that bit more that they cost . That's "IS" on Levy
I agree with you that Chavski and C$teh have cheated their way through this couple of decades . Newcastle would have done the same if it wasn't being stamped out . The FA are spineless wankers . Like I said I used to be pro Levy , I just think I've had a season from hell on the road supporting us and getting home at stupid o clock in the morning after watching us play shit has made me a bit poisonous . Brighton was a tough one 0-2 up at half time and then we ended up getting beat . Chavs at Home 2-0 up and lost 4-3 . Brighton was brutal for us - It was the 10th time that Tottenham have lost a Premier League game in which they led by 2+ goals, the first club to hit double figures for this , and at least three more than any other side in the competition's history .
It's the European clubs Mainly Real Madrid and Barcelona too that drove up players prices . So with the inflated market , It's not just Chavs and C$teh's fault for that . But I see where you're coming from - C$teh paying £100mil for Grealish was vulgar and just flexing their muscles .
That's why.
You can be a "nearly team". But you can't be a "nearly team" when that last critical telling margin is so nakedly being withheld from the club year after year after year after year.
Some people are Levy Lovers and won't have a word said against him . The new stadium was supposed to be a game changer - the only thing that's changed is our league position and it's not for the better .
That's why.
You can be a "nearly team". But you can't be a "nearly team" when that last critical telling margin is so nakedly being withheld from the club year after year after year after year.
Its probably BS. But it would take longer than a few days to sell the club once announced there was a buyer. The club has to carry on. Earliest they would get is winter window.