i think Mutombo is very easy to spell right
what so hard about it ?
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what so hard about it ?
Set pieces…..it’s in the title
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Mate, this fanbase couldn't get Eriksen right and the bloke was here for 7 odd years. There's simply no chance we're spelling Mbuemo right...
Wait... ffs
Some of them still can’t spell Linekar!
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Beating up on the Australian donut is fun and all but we should probably start to keep that recreational activity in his own thread. I know that I would like to see content collected about Frank here without Ange adulteration, I am sure others feel the same.
That's like saying it took 41 seasons to see what Tottenham was made of. Its stupid because it doesn't take into account the totality of the period: Two seasons: one fifth league finish, one 17th, one Cup semi, One Europa Cup, One Champions League qualification.
Frank needs to be an upgrade otherwise what's the point?
I’m convinced that if we do sign him his shirt will say Mbuemo.Mate, this fanbase couldn't get Eriksen right and the bloke was here for 7 odd years. There's simply no chance we're spelling Mbuemo right...
Wait... ffs
Nah mate, I said no manager survives 22 losses.
I have 2 issues here:
1. the gross misrepresentation and lack of contextualising of his tenure from people with an agenda to be proven right no matter the facts,
2. the excuses already being lined up for Frank under-performing before a ball's even been kicked!
Frank should be judged this season league wise the same way Ange did when he had to juggle the league with Europe. And Ange never had to juggle the CL.
Ange finished 5th with one game a week and due to an explosive start. We were inches from being 6th or 7th as we fell off as the season went on.
The idea that if Frank grew in to the season, clearly developed us and we finished say 6th this would be ‘worse’ is silly.
And we can’t expect Frank to win a ‘European cup’ because he’s not playing in the B cup, we’re in the A cup! Can’t fucking win a competition we’re not in, he’ll be judged against the same competitions Ange could play in and we didn’t win shit domestically.
Ange’s tenure was a fantastic start which then petered off for literally about a year and a half of crap. The first season was rescued by the incredible start. We finished that season losing to basically everybody and clinging on to fifth like a life raft, 6 whole points ahead of Ten Haags shitshow in 8th.
We then had an entirely rubbish second season (literally started by drawing to Leicester) but at the end had a cup run. There’s no context here, the guy didn’t coach a consistently good team after his first 10 games at the club! How bad is it when a team actively get worse the more time the manager has with them ?!
We did stumble at the end of the season, but wound up 2 points off 4th, but 3 ahead of 6th and 6 ahead of 7th.
I know it's a deep personal tragedy to you, but on balance we had a quite successful league season in 23/24, qualifying for a European spot that we'd capitalize on for glory. My condolences.
Totally agree, I'd use harsher language than "silly" really.
I'm pretty sure I said this when Ange was hired, and I would use the exact same rubric for Frank: their first season will be a success in my book if I feel better about our squad and its ability to challenge for major honors moving forward at the end of next season than I do right now.
The hope is that his coaching reveals qualities in our players we don't currently see. That would be success.
Wait a minute- Frank knows the league. He know the players. He is proven in this league. He brings his own experienced support stuff. He has state of the art facilities. He inherits a successful team with high spirits. All advantages not available to the previous manager.
The fans will not give Frank time to grow into the season. If we're languishing in mid-lower table purgitory and getting belted in the Champion League, after the first 10-12 weeks, the knives will be out and rightly so.
The context its been done to death: the injuries, shallow squad, reliance on kids, the focus on the cups and the EL. Having said that 17 th is not acceptable which is why he is no longer here, but the record is what is: 5th, 17th, Cup Semi, European Cup, Champions League. I
Its no excuse for Frank to fuck things up. He needs to hit the ground running.
Fair enough, but there's quite some distance between that and where Ange was after 10-12 weeks, right?
It's never a reasonable expectation for a new manager to immediately step in and pull up trees, especially not against the gauntlet we're facing.
Any cup tournament has that element of randomness(is that a word?), but the PL season is a constant, so I agree with you there. To keep Ange because of the EL trophy win, just isn't a risk worth taking in my opinion.
We had an entirely fit squad at the end of last season and lost to almost everyone. Our squad was fit at the start of this season and we sucked. The context is excuses. The manage failed to consistently achieve any type of form after his first 10 matches so was sacked.
You make it sound simple on paper but Frank will have a lot of work to do as Villa, Newcastle etc have been allowed to accelerate past us and build.
Agree except the point about “and rightly so”
If we are struggling badly next season again, that to me suggests the obstacles that Romero mentioned aren’t rooted in the coaching staff… no matter who they are
Yeah of course if we’re lower mid table and losing every game there will be criticism.
Inherits a successful team by the way? He inherits a team that finished 17th but had a cup run. Aka an inconsistent mess. As soon as we won that cup we lost 4-1 at home to Brighton. Against our peers this team has been borderline catastrophic for well over a season. Also, Ange had state of the art facilities..
Frank is going to have to balance the highest level of European football (a huge leap from Europa) and the premier league with a stronger league than Ange came in to with one game a week. It’s not an easy task. This team has forgotten how to win premier league games regularly.
No one is misrepresenting anything.
No one cares that you feel aggrieved.
No one cares about your tears.