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Transfers The Summer Transfer Thread 2025

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Tomo said:
I watched Ndombele for a good number of games for Lyon and one for France, he was playing at an elite standard, he looked like he was going to become one the best midfielders around. Pretty much everyone was delighted we bought him. Hard to know he didn’t really like football and was going to take the contact from us as a means to retire from football. Elite scouting might have picked that up but there was zero wrong with his talent, he had everything we needed other than he was underneither an arsehole. And that lesson from that might be we don’t sign Kudas.
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He was at Lyon and had one maybe 2 seasons playing there. One truely elite game playing Man City.

Either way was poor from the start of his time at Spurs under Poch. Didn't improve under Mourhino or under coaches at all the loan clubs.

Only common factor I could see is he was very happy to be highly paid, but found football to be a necessary evil into which he put in as much as effort as felt like on the day.
 
Spursidol said:
He was at Lyon and had one maybe 2 seasons playing there. One truely elite game playing Man City.

Either way was poor from the start of his time at Spurs under Poch. Didn't improve under Mourhino or under coaches at all the loan clubs.

Only common factor I could see is he was very happy to be highly paid, but found football to be a necessary evil into which he put in as much as effort as felt like on the day.
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Biggest waste of talent I've ever seen in a Spurs shirt. The 5 or so games where he looked like he fancied it he was phenomenal.
 
LeParisien said:
Big signings are usually not worth the money. Here are the records (excluding Wirtz).

Enzo Fernandez
Moses Caicedo
Jack Grealish
Declan Rice
Antony
Josep Gvardiol
Harry Maguire
Darwin Nunez
Jason Sancho
Romelu Lukaku

Only three of those players have helped their team to win a CL or PL. Gvardiol will probably end up being worth it. Grealish is hotly debated but I’d say hes had just one good season. Darwin Nunez is widely seen as a flop who Liverpool are looking to sell.

Spending huge sums of money on transfer fees usually doesn’t do much for you. You have to buy the right player at the right price. That’s a lot harder than just spending cash.

We can play the same game with our signings too and the top end isn’t clearly better.
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We were talking about Liverpool here. Stay on track.

They broke transfer records for Alisson and VVD and those players formed the spine of their PL and CL winning team. They’ve just won the PL and broken a transfer record again to win the CL.

It’s called conviction. I hate that they have owners who are committed to winning not talking about winning.

You can talk about big transfers not being worth it but all those big transfers went to teams trying to win.

How many of the recent PL and CL titles were won by teams that didn’t have the conviction to pay top end wages and/or top end transfer fees?
 
LeParisien said:
The aim is to have the best possible players on the pitch. The question, to which there is no clear answer, is how best to do that.

The list of 70-80m+ players has more flops than successes. Players who tear up Portugal can be good or they can be underwhelming (Darwin Nunez anyone?).

I’m happy with our data led approach at the moment. If we could buy like Brighton then I’d be delighted. However sure it would be exciting to pay more in wages for the right players. But that’s not an end in itself.

For me the key is having a coach who can improve players and make the whole better than the sum of its parts. We haven’t had that since Poch so I’m excited and optimistic.
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Why the fuck would you want to buy like Brighton? What do they win? Absolutely fuck all, that’s what.

They buy to sell players to clubs who win things. How many domestic leagues and European trophies have been won by “Data led” recruitment clubs? Pretty much fuck all. Data led is way to maximize limited resources like a business would but completely ignores the fact that football is also sport and not exclusively a business.

Even the original money ball baseball team didn’t win anything
 
Richard Arlison said:
We were talking about Liverpool here. Stay on track.

They broke transfer records for Alisson and VVD and those players formed the spine of their PL and CL winning team. They’ve just won the PL and broken a transfer record again to win the CL.

It’s called conviction. I hate that they have owners who are committed to winning not talking about winning.

You can talk about big transfers not being worth it but all those big transfers went to teams trying to win.

How many of the recent PL and CL titles were won by teams that didn’t have the conviction to pay top end wages and/or top end transfer fees?
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I don't disagree but there's also the issue of us being absolutely shit at big money signings. Ndombele being a great example. Sanchez, Richarlison, Bentley and a whole host of others.

We need to spend big but spend wisely.
 
Dr Rocktopus said:
I don't disagree but there's also the issue of us being absolutely shit at big money signings. Ndombele being a great example. Sanchez, Richarlison, Bentley and a whole host of others.

We need to spend big but spend wisely.
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So because we’ve been shit at it that means we should just run away scared to do it again?

You get better at something the more you do it. Just need some courage and conviction.

Scout your balls off, be as certain as you can about your top target and do what it takes to get them.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Why the fuck would you want to buy like Brighton? What do they win? Absolutely fuck all, that’s what.

They buy to sell players to clubs who win things. How many domestic leagues and European trophies have been won by “Data led” recruitment clubs? Pretty much fuck all. Data led is way to maximize limited resources like a business would but completely ignores the fact that football is also sport and not exclusively a business.

Even the original money ball baseball team didn’t win anything
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You think à Brighton XI from the past 5/6 years wouldnt be a CL team?

Their problem is that they sell, not their buying.
 
Richard Arlison said:
So because we’ve been shit at it that means we should just run away scared to do it again?

You get better at something the more you do it. Just need some courage and conviction.

Scout your balls off, be as certain as you can about your top target and do what it takes to get them.
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I think I need better glasses. I've re-read my post but can't see anything about saying we should just run away scared.
 
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