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Player Morgan Gibbs-White

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Trotter said:
www.planetfootball.com

Tapped up: Gibbs-White & 11 other stars allegedly approached illegally

Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester United and Barcelona are among the clubs who have been accused of tapping players up in their pursuit of a transfer.
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Sure there are plenty more, but will be settled with increased transfer fee to make it go away
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Suspect they will only get lower offers the longer this goes on

As soon as that release clause became public, that was their last chance of ever getting that amount
 
Rebrov_Likes said:
Liverpool got a slap on the wrist for Christian Ziege 20 years ago. A lot of the time the selling club won’t pursue anything because they want to tap up themselves in the future. Remember when there were pictures of Ashley Cole meeting Chelsea reps, Woolwich didn’t do a damn thing.
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About time they re-wrote the rule book over tapping up, the term is so dated.

I guess it comes from a time when there wasn't so many agents and player reps in the game and contact between clubs and players were minimal, now I guess you can negotiate contracts with agents through What'sapp and stuff like that without the club knowing and the clubs are powerless to stop it.

Wonder if Forest do go with this actual tapping up complaint where it actually leaves them? Presumably every future transfer they do would mean they'd be doing things by the book...:D
 
Rebrov_Likes said:
Liverpool got a slap on the wrist for Christian Ziege 20 years ago. A lot of the time the selling club won’t pursue anything because they want to tap up themselves in the future. Remember when there were pictures of Ashley Cole meeting Chelsea reps, Woolwich didn’t go as strong as they could have.
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Liverpool and Ziege got fine from FA but Liverpool settled out of court with Middlesbrough for tapping up on top of that in effect for the difference between release clause and fair valuation
 
I might be wrong, but what seems to be implied by Forest's allegations is not that they have any particular evidence of tapping-up (this all happened extremely quickly, not like some of the lengthy public sagas of prior cases), but that they are asserting that Spurs COULD ONLY HAVE KNOWN OF THE CLAUSE AMOUNT due to illegal contact, that it could not possibly have gotten the information any other way.

That is an extremely leaky argument, but that's what seems to be the implication of how Forest's response is described.

It sounds like their theory of the case is that the Gibbs-White camp was angry that Forest was demanding much more than the release clause they'd gone to the trouble of negotiating into his deal, so they conspired with Spurs to get us to put a bid in that would trigger it.

Is that true? Do they have any evidence that's true? EVEN IF that's true do they have legal standing to refuse the operation of the clause? All unclear.

But the injured party here is Morgan Gibbs-White, not Spurs. Only he can enforce his rights here, if he is willing to make a fuss doing so.
 
FightingIllini said:
I might be wrong, but what seems to be implied by Forest's allegations is not that they have any particular evidence of tapping-up (this all happened extremely quickly, not like some of the lengthy public sagas of prior cases), but that they are asserting that Spurs COULD ONLY HAVE KNOWN OF THE CLAUSE AMOUNT due to illegal contact, that it could not possibly have gotten the information any other way.

That is an extremely leaky argument, but that's what seems to be the implication of how Forest's response is described.

It sounds like their theory of the case is that the Gibbs-White camp was angry that Forest was demanding much more than the release clause they'd gone to the trouble of negotiating into his deal, so they conspired with Spurs to get us to put a bid in that would trigger it.

Is that true? Do they have any evidence that's true? EVEN IF that's true do they have legal standing to refuse the operation of the clause? All unclear.

But the injured party here is Morgan Gibbs-White, not Spurs. Only he can enforce his rights here, if he is willing to make a fuss doing so.
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The legal stuff is a smokescreen and they know it. What is happening is their owner, who is a childish megalomaniac, is refusing to sell him despite the clause. It is up to Gibbs-White to initiate a legal process for breach of contract. That process will not complete in this window. Their owner is banking on Gibbs-White folding, or us moving on to another target. We can do nothing, it has to be Gibbs-White. He needs to refuse to train and start legal proceedings and stay away from Forest. Every day he turns up and trains or pulls on their shirt, the Forest owner's position strengthens.
 
spids said:
The legal stuff is a smokescreen and they know it. What is happening is their owner, who is a childish megalomaniac, is refusing to sell him despite the clause. It is up to Gibbs-White to statr a legal process for breach of contract. That process will not complete in this window. Their owner is banking on Gibbs-White folding. We can do nothing, it has to be Gibbs-White. He needs to refuse to train and start legal proceedings and stay away from Forest.
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Not sure if it's been mentioned but if this complaint does go to the premier League or whoever there is no way It could hold any weight because it would ultimately come down to a release clause means nothing and a complete waste of time with such obligations moving forward.

In many circumstances some players would only move to certain clubs because it is in the contract
 
FightingIllini said:
I might be wrong, but what seems to be implied by Forest's allegations is not that they have any particular evidence of tapping-up (this all happened extremely quickly, not like some of the lengthy public sagas of prior cases), but that they are asserting that Spurs COULD ONLY HAVE KNOWN OF THE CLAUSE AMOUNT due to illegal contact, that it could not possibly have gotten the information any other way.

That is an extremely leaky argument, but that's what seems to be the implication of how Forest's response is described.

It sounds like their theory of the case is that the Gibbs-White camp was angry that Forest was demanding much more than the release clause they'd gone to the trouble of negotiating into his deal, so they conspired with Spurs to get us to put a bid in that would trigger it.

Is that true? Do they have any evidence that's true? EVEN IF that's true do they have legal standing to refuse the operation of the clause? All unclear.

But the injured party here is Morgan Gibbs-White, not Spurs. Only he can enforce his rights here, if he is willing to make a fuss doing so.
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Continuing our previous conversation, surely this is precisely why players have agents.

It's the agents who can provide top notch advice to their client, the football player - be it legal / contractual, PR / reputational protection, etc.

I understand why players don't want to be seen as the "bad guy", disrespecting fans who so recently worshipped the ground they walked on.

Reading between the lines, MGW thinks he's ready for a bigger club than Forest, both to potentially win trophies and boost his England chances. He seems enthusiastic about the potential at Spurs, where he'll be playing with better players, week in, week out. He's turned down contract offers from Forest so he can use the release clause to control his future destination. His career.

CAA Stellar are one of the most powerful agencies in world football. It's surely part of their role to protect their client's reputation by putting themselves in the firing line in the contractual dispute over the release clause.

More strategically, it's important for CAA Stellar to ensure clauses in contracts between players and clubs are respected.

They negotiated the contract between MGW & Forest, so they MUST know the precise terms of the alleged NDA regarding the release clause.

If CAA Stellar are silent because their lawyers are advising them they are legally vulnerable over the breaching of the NDA, then that would be a surprisingly unprofessional mess of their own making.
 
I am really curious to see how this plays out. They may be accusing Spurs/agents of wrongdoing but as a complete layperson it seems like if they can’t prove that Spurs did anything wrong then they are breaching the players contract which I assume could end with egg all over their face.
 
This guy must be setting the record for most pages in a thread before even signing for the club. Fuck me, 135 pages of it.

He’ll have more pages than most of our squad before kicking a ball at this rate.

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Out of interest what is he worth without the release clause , is anyone paying £75m for him , I can’t see it . Maybe they could get another 5m but to me £60m is a v fair offer , it’s not a piss take for sure , you’d think we were nicking him for £20m the way he’s acting .
 
Imo florist are trying to put the frighteners on us as the release clause is 60m but are making a song and dance about it as realistically they don't want to lose the player. Football insider reckon we will get him come end of the window. Imo Florist will get a replacement in first.
 
whenstevewentup said:
Out of interest what is he worth without the release clause , is anyone paying £75m for him , I can’t see it . Maybe they could get another 5m but to me £60m is a v fair offer , it’s not a piss take for sure , you’d think we were nicking him for £20m the way he’s acting .
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NOBODY is going to pay out anything appreciably over 60m now that the release clause is confirmed.

Some people in here are out of their minds if they think any club is going to offer even 2 or 3 million "extra."
 
If Spurs 'knew' about the release clause, couldn't they be more strategic with their interest.

Bid 55m pounds, get rejected. Come back a week later with a 60m pound bid.

OR

Just bid 65m.

Both cases you could easily argue that they 'weren't previously aware' of 60m release.
 
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