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Transfers The Summer Transfer Edging Thread 2025

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This isn’t good depth lol

Both strikers could be upgraded, both left wingers could be upgraded, both cdm could be upgraded

Just merely having numbers in a position doesnt mean the depth is good

The degree of how "good" is up for debate.... But the OG assertion that it is "horrendous" is bllx.

"Could be upgraded" is a pretty universal statement that could be applied to the majority of players and most clubs assessment of depth.

Man U, Arse & LFC have all gone into recent seasons without 2 players for every position (let alone 2 x high grade players)....... Despite their billions spent recently; even that Chavs have been guilty of numbers > quality. Yet the "only spurs" myth continues to get peddled about the way we operate.
 
It was a straw man, and you're actually supporting my point with it, because the original thing was that we used to finish 8th or higher with worse squad. The rebuttal was:



So the argument was that this side doesn't have "two of the greatest PL attackers in their prime". People then go on to point out other players that are also not that. Van der vaart was miles off it. Bale was just one player. Berbatov was a wizard but gets no where near the list of 'greatest PL attackers'.

So the point still remains that having "two of the greatest PL attackers in their prime" was nothing to do with our previous finishes either. The absolute core of this team finished 5th a couple of seasons ago. For most of last season people were adamant it was injuries that were the main cause of our league form.

And now, some kind of Mandela effect is in place to suggest that we never had a top-8 side in the first place, and I guess the implied cause is that the players are too crap for that. I have no idea if that's some kind of mental gynastics to let ange off the hook, but people were reeling off stats where we would have won the title with romero and vdv fit not too many weeks ago
Apologies, but I'm still not exactly clear what the argument is here, but you raise a number of points, so I'll address those instead.

I do think it's obvious that none of our current players are a prime Kane, or prime Son. Neither are any of them prime Bale or prime Modric either. But neither were any of those players when they first started for us. They all took a season or two to turn into the monster players they became.

Currently we have a core of good young players, some of whom will hopefully (fingers crossed) go on to reach that level. But they're not there yet.

It's also obvious to me that the primary reason we finished so low down in the league last year was primarily because of the horrific injury crisis, but even without it I don't think we'd have finished any higher than 10th-12th.

Recent history and our wage spend etc. suggest 6th-8th is about par for Spurs, and I think Ange did well to match that in his first season despite losing Kane and with Son on the decline.

Last season I doubt he would have done much better than mid-table because even with everyone fully fit the squad simply wasn't strong enough to compete in every game in a sixty game season. Hence we sacrificed league position for a tilt at the trophies.

Now I get that's unacceptable to a lot of people here, so if we want Thomas Frank to compete on all fronts, and give him the best chances at success, then I think we need more additions to the squad.

For example, I think Palinha could be a good addition on a loan or short term contract. A quality player, with bags of experience, who can hopefully teach our young kids a thing or two.
 

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Btw, we can tell paratici isn’t involved in this window. No leaks, no random links to a host of new players every week. At least he kept the bullshit flowing and to a realistic level.

Somehow "bullshit" is better?

Even if you think it would somehow placate the remedy all the moaning in the interim; cast your mind back to his time in the hotseat..... It wasn't the slightest bit better in those trf threads.

Richard Arlison Richard Arlison (for example; sorry bud!) chatting the exact same shit over our pursuit of Romero as he is now over MGW. The same crap about "Well; we signed Greaves" and the myths about us being "serial winners" in the 80s from Cunt Thomas. ......And the same mass frenzy of people freaking out every time anyone else signs a player.

All the same "we tried" & "monitoring FC" memes being chucked about.....

No better at all.
 
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Not taking a dig. But you come across to many of us a someone who would relentlessly defend Levy / ENIC with your life. Come what may.

If you find the time, sir, could you give an example of what you would describe as a totally unacceptable transfer window? You know, given our wealth, ticket prices, last years 17th place finish etc....Taking everything into account.

I'm sure such a theoretical scenario must exist. Even for you?

Really interested to hear it as it may help me and many others to understand your position more clearly.
Although, if you'd rather not, I understand. We'll just draw our own conclusions from that
 
The degree of how "good" is up for debate.... But the OG assertion that it is "horrendous" is bllx.

"Could be upgraded" is a pretty universal statement that could be applied to the majority of players and most clubs assessment of depth.

Man U, Arse & LFC have all gone into recent seasons without 2 players for every position (let alone 2 x high grade players)....... Despite their billions spent recently; even that Chavs have been guilty of numbers > quality. Yet the "only spurs" myth continues to get peddled about the way we operate.
I think for a big club who apparently wants to Compete on all fronts, going into the season with tel and Odobert as our LW options is pretty horrendous. Not that they’re bad players, or they can’t improve but from what we’ve seen of them they’re not of standard required to be starting for a top club.

There’s no “only spurs” myth, we go into every season short of quality in multiple areas. Our squad is nowhere near as good as Woolwich or Liverpool’s so not sure bringing them up as examples helps your point much.
 
I still don't trust Spence. He was sensational for a 2 month spell last year (January/February) but his end of season form was embarrassing. I'm not sure we can trust someone who has only really played 10 good games for us. I know he's a fans favourite and he has been mistreated by previous managers and probably not had enough opportunities to play.

BUT I wouldn't be comfortable with us relying on him being our main back up fullback next season. I just think it'll end badly. Obviously hope he proves me wrong if and when he does get games, but I just am not convinced he'll show consistency and be a reliable back up. I think we will regularly drop points when he plays.

He probably was good in the same amount of games than he was compared to the rest of our players, difference with him is that it came in a 2 month spell, I said at the time it was always going to drop off because the standards were on the floor last season and since no-one was really trying he was bound to follow suit.
 
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