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Tottenham Points Behind the PL Title Winner

1994-95 - 27
1995-96 - 21
1996-97 - 29
1997-98 - 34
1998-99 - 32
99-2000 - 38
2000-01 - 31
2001-02 - 37
2002-03 - 33
2003-04 - 45
2004-05 - 43
2005-06 - 26
2006-07 - 29
2007-08 - 41
2008-09 - 39
2009-10 - 16
2010-11 - 18
2011-12 - 20
2012-13 - 17
2013-14 - 17
2014-15 - 23
2015-16 - 11
2016-17 - 7
2017-18 - 23
2018-19 - 27
2019-20 - 40
2020-21 - 24
2021-22 - 22
2022-23 - 29
2023-24 - 25
2024-25 - 46

Been wanting to put those numbers together for awhile, that is a very strong and very important correction to the constantly overstated "ENIC has dramatically lifted the club from where it was in the 90's". So much of that is just the strength of the correlation between revenue and points getting much stronger.

We massively surged from 2005-2017 and immediately collapsed back to a distance from the best in England as big if not bigger than the Sugar years.

That would be visualized even more strongly as a graph if anyone is handy like that.
Wow, this really demonstrates the ENIC story off the pitch versus on the pitch

1994-95: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - ??.?%, Points off Title - 27

1995-96: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - ??.?%, Points off Title - 21

1996-97: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - ??.?%, Points off Title - 29

1997-98: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 35.5%, Points off Title - 34

1998-99: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 38.4%, Points off Title - 32

1999-00: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 41.4%, Points off Title - 38

2000-01: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 36.8%, Points off Title - 31

2001-02: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 43.9%, Points off Title - 37

2002-03: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 38.0%, Points off Title - 33

2003-04: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 38.6%, Points off Title - 45

2004-05: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 42.4%, Points off Title - 43

2005-06: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 44.2%, Points off Title - 26

2006-07: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 48.6%, Points off Title - 29

2007-08: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 44.6%, Points off Title - 41

2008-09: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 40.6%, Points off Title - 39

2009-10: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 41.8%, Points off Title - 16

2010-11: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 49.3%, Points off Title - 18

2011-12: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 45.0%, Points off Title - 20

2012-13: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 40.6%, Points off Title - 17

2013-14: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 41.6%, Points off Title - 17

2014-15
: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 49.6%, Points off Title - 23

2015-16: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 40.6%, Points off Title - 11

2016-17: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 53.2%, Points off Title - 7

2017-18: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 64.3%, Points off Title - 23

2018-19: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 73.2%, Points off Title - 27

2019-20: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 76.8%, Points off Title - 40

2020-21: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 63.0%, Points off Title - 24

2021-22: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 71.5%, Points off Title - 22

2022-23: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 76.5%, Points off Title - 29

2023-24: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 73.4%, Points off Title - 25

2024-25: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - ??.?%, Points off Title - 46

Showing the gap relative to the top of the league really dials out a ton of noise in these numbers, it's such a stark story displayed this way. The decades-long quest to get into touching distance financially has wildly succeeded yet nonetheless backslid on the pitch into Sugar territory (with twice the money!)

Hey CJJ CJJ I've got something new to spam the board with, and this one I made myself! :gazza:
 
Wow, this really demonstrates the ENIC story off the pitch versus on the pitch

1994-95: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - ??.?%, Points off Title - 27

1995-96: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - ??.?%, Points off Title - 21

1996-97: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - ??.?%, Points off Title - 29

1997-98: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 35.5%, Points off Title - 34

1998-99: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 38.4%, Points off Title - 32

1999-00: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 41.4%, Points off Title - 38

2000-01: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 36.8%, Points off Title - 31

2001-02: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 43.9%, Points off Title - 37

2002-03: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 38.0%, Points off Title - 33

2003-04: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 38.6%, Points off Title - 45

2004-05: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 42.4%, Points off Title - 43

2005-06: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 44.2%, Points off Title - 26

2006-07: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 48.6%, Points off Title - 29

2007-08: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 44.6%, Points off Title - 41

2008-09: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 40.6%, Points off Title - 39

2009-10: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 41.8%, Points off Title - 16

2010-11: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 49.3%, Points off Title - 18

2011-12: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 45.0%, Points off Title - 20

2012-13: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 40.6%, Points off Title - 17

2013-14: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 41.6%, Points off Title - 17

2014-15
: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 49.6%, Points off Title - 23

2015-16: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 40.6%, Points off Title - 11

2016-17: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 53.2%, Points off Title - 7

2017-18: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 64.3%, Points off Title - 23

2018-19: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 73.2%, Points off Title - 27

2019-20: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 76.8%, Points off Title - 40

2020-21: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 63.0%, Points off Title - 24

2021-22: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 71.5%, Points off Title - 22

2022-23: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 76.5%, Points off Title - 29

2023-24: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 73.4%, Points off Title - 25

2024-25: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - ??.?%, Points off Title - 46

Showing the gap relative to the top of the league really dials out a ton of noise in these numbers, it's such a stark story displayed this way. The decades-long quest to get into touching distance financially has wildly succeeded yet nonetheless backslid on the pitch into Sugar territory (with twice the money!)

Hey CJJ CJJ I've got something new to spam the board with, and this one I made myself! :gazza:

Just shows how much 09-17 was the high period for football under ENIC but the business has kept growing. Problem is the business and investment don’t correlate, if all football clubs where self sustaining it might work but the majority of clubs are not.
 
We've got to get these cunts out of Spurs.

Do we have a consensus people?

What the fuck do we need to do?

My mates Dad knew Levy and laughed at us when we were all pleased he took it on. He said clearly they haven’t got a pot to piss in and stood by it and he still brings it up now - as we’ve all aligned to his original summary and admitted he was right. They’ve done well commercially to be fair albeit all funded by the club/fans but f me operationally they are a shit show
 
My mates Dad knew Levy and laughed at us when we were all pleased he took it on. He said clearly they haven’t got a pot to piss in and stood by it and he still brings it up now - as we’ve all aligned to his original summary and admitted he was right. They’ve done well commercially to be fair albeit all funded by the club/fans but f me operationally they are a shit show
It's fucking embarrassing how long it is dragging on with these people.

25 fucking years.

To be honest it makes the supporters look like mugs.

What other top half Prem club puts up with ENIC and Levy for 25 years and buys the same bullshit year after year?
 
A graph would, indeed, tell a better story.


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Aside from 2 abberant seasons - 2019-2020 (largely a product of Liverpool winning the title with 99 points - 18 points clear of City in 2nd) and 2024-25 where the mistake of hiring a manager completely out of his depth was show up; even our recent dip in form from Peak-Poch is a level above where we were in the 90s.
I mean you're really torturing the statistics if Ange gets yada yadaed away but Christian Gross doesn't.

But its ridiculous to assert that ENIC/Levy have not successfully guided Spurs to a higher level than any time since Scholar arrived.
The 80's didn't have as close a scrape with the title as Poch had, but were arguably better overall, and for a more sustained period with more trophy success.

Points Gap 81/82-90/91: 16:angecup:, 13, 19:angecup:, 13, 23, 15, 43, 19, 16, 34 :angecup:

(Incidentally 81/82 was the debut of 3 points for a win and the seasons were 42 games until 86/87)

For the record, Standard Deviation from the league mean would be a much, much more appropriate analysis. I'll leave that to you because I have a latte to go pick up.
I'd be interested to see it (not math smart enough to do it myself), but that's really measuring something entirely different which will flatter us in the era when financial dominance over the teams behind counts for much more.

The point is, the emergent PSR era is the tightest correlation between revenue generation and points there has ever been, our revenue is nearer the absolute top than it has been in decades, and yet we're fading away competitively.
 
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It's fucking embarrassing how long it is dragging on with these people.

25 fucking years.

To be honest it makes the supporters look like mugs.

What other top half Prem club puts up with ENIC and Levy for 25 years and buys the same bullshit year after year?
I despise Levy but can admit they haven’t been a disaster…. They are par / average off the field and have spent the fans money well on infra but football wise it’s been below par considering the former. Compared to Ashley et al they are ok - but after 25 years par / average isn’t good enough
 
Has Levy's salary and bonus, for the last decade, been money well spent?
Wouldn’t classify that as infrastructure - and you could argue the increase in revenue has justified his salary… you could also argue that should be offset by the football operations disaster he’s also overseen. This is my point - he’s not been hounded out because he’s done some good and some shit…. But after 25 years nothings gonna improve, get fucked Levy tbh
 
I'd be interested to see it (not math smart enough to do it myself), but that's really measuring something entirely different which will flatter us in the area when financial dominance over the teams behind counts for much more.

The point is, the emergent PSR era is the tightest correlation between revenue generation and points there has ever been, our revenue is nearer the absolute top than it has been in decades, and yet we're fading away competitively.
Yes, the best comparison would be standard deviations from the mean in Points/£(transfers and wages). Data from the past would be impossible to obtain most likely.
 
I think with bonuses it comes very close to 6m?
But I think we will agree, he is on a very good screw at THFC, making him the highest paid director in the league?
It really does depend on which unreliable source you want to believe , in the last accounts presented to HMRC (believable) Levy earns £3.7 million a year but if you want to believe this website he is not the highest paid director/ceo in the PL , that honour goes to Man U who we stuffed four times last season.

 
In a 25 year period then no, its not the 90s. In the last 6 years i'd say its very similar to the 90s and i was one of the poor buggers that sat through most of that. Last 6 seasons 17th, 5th, 8th, 4th, 7th, 6th. Cup defeats to Sheff Utd, Middlesbrough, Colchester, Norwich, Zagreb.
It's not comparable to the 90's at all. Our most succesful 6 year period in the '90s, is probably 90/91 to 95/96. We won a trophy (FA cup), and made the league cup semi final 3 times.

In the last 6 years we've won a trophy (a bigger one than the FA cup), and made a league cup semi-final and a final. So cup wise not that different.

But in the league, we finished 10th, 15th, 8th, 15th, 7th, 15th, an average position of almost 12th! Over the last half a dozen seasons we averaged just below 7th. And that's including last season which was clearly an outlier due to injuries, and an unusually heavy schedule.

We also only qualified for Europe once in that 90's period by the way, whereas we've done it 5 times out of the last 6, despite the League being far more competitve than it ever was in the 90's.

Yes the last few years have been disappointing, but it's clear, that under Levy and ENIC we're streets ahead of where we were 30 years ago.
 
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