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Transfers The Summer Transfer Edging Thread 2025

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Amazing stats. But as you know well, someone with great stats can be an unimpressive footballer ;)

I don’t think it’s crazy to suggest that people watch someone play before advocating for us to spend 70m.

Simons is by all accounts an extremely good footballer beyond the stats with very good fundamentals.

As it happens I’ve seen him a few times. He’s very obviously good at football.

I don’t advocate for anything but maybe we could possibly if Levy’s feeling really nice spend some solid money on erm .. someone after the injury to Maddison and retirement of a legend? Maybe just something which excites the fans. Pretty please baldy?

Because the upcoming season has all the anticipation of a wet fart currently. What are we excited for other than a clean slate and hope? Our attack and midfield has all the flair and excitement of a plant pot.
 
Even calling Palhinha a "punt" is disingenuous.......... He's prem proven and has a perfectly evident skillset.
I'd more say that it's absolutely a "punt", but a "punt" isn't necessarily a bad thing.

A move that's not a punt, lets posit, is when you buy a player permanently from a club that would otherwise be happy to keep them, and the performance you're hoping to secure is what the player was already doing for that team.

Buying him from Fulham 12 months ago would not have been a punt, but buying him from Bayern now is a punt. But precisely for that reason, it's a good punt.

Every signing is a punt to some extent
This is also much more true than people understand/accept.
 
Even calling Palhinha a "punt" is disingenuous.......... He's prem proven and has a perfectly evident skillset.

He’s a punt. He was very good then had a bad injury and is coming off a poor season. We have no idea if that same player is still going to rock up at Spurs and no idea if he can translate being very good at tackling to being particularly great at a top 6 team.

He’s available on loan and we had a free run at his transfer for a reason. If he was so super duper proven real deal great, Levy would be running away from a bidding war.
 
He’s a punt. He was very good then had a bad injury and is coming off a poor season. We have no idea if that same player is still going to rock up at Spurs and no idea if he can translate being very good at tackling to being particularly great at a top 6 team.

He’s available on loan and we had a free run at his transfer for a reason. If he was so super duper proven real deal great, Levy would be running away from a bidding war.

Every signing is a punt to some extent
 
Gone to big clubs and couldn’t stick.

Nobody willing to pay up for them, so available on loan

He’s a 30 year old very limited defensive mid coming off a very bad season where when he did play he looked totally out of place in a possession heavy team.

He is of course a punt. Not a bad one or anything, but a punt. Loan with option to buy is almost always a punt because if we were so convinced about him we wouldn’t bother, and if Bayern could find a club willing to pay now they would.
 
I'd more say that it's absolutely a "punt", but a "punt" isn't necessarily a bad thing.

A move that's not a punt, lets posit, is when you buy a player permanently from a club that would otherwise be happy to keep them, and the performance you're hoping to secure is what the player was already doing for that team.

Buying him from Fulham 12 months ago would not have been a punt, but buying him from Bayern now is a punt. But precisely for that reason, it's a good punt.
If Tuchel was still at Bayern we wouldn’t be signing him.

It’s only the way the Belgian Ange plays in a weak league that means Palhinha is surplus to requirements.
 
He’s a punt. He was very good then had a bad injury and is coming off a poor season. We have no idea if that same player is still going to rock up at Spurs and no idea if he can translate being very good at tackling to being particularly great at a top 6 team.

He’s available on loan and we had a free run at his transfer for a reason. If he was so super duper proven real deal great, Levy would be running away from a bidding war.

Exactly

If it’s a player other supposed “big 6” clubs want, Levy can’t sign them
 
He’s a 30 year old very limited defensive mid coming off a very bad season where when he did play he looked totally out of place in a possession heavy team.

He is of course a punt. Not a bad one or anything, but a punt. Loan with option to buy is almost always a punt because if we were so convinced about him we wouldn’t bother, and if Bayern could find a club willing to pay now they would.
In fairness he was higly rated at Fulham and had some big PL clubs looking at him before he went to bayern. If we'd have signed him for 40mil last summer most of us would have been happy.
 
The way I'm starting to think of the Boehly project is almost like a currency exchange rate play.

They essentially think of talented 18-22 yo footballers as an asset class that inflates faster than the broader market, and via the loan system PSR is really the only ceiling on how big of a portfolio they can create. It's an index fund of sorts.

Turning it into a football team is Enzo Maresca's problem. He knows and accepts the project.

It is absolutely not the most efficient way to turn all this money into points in the table. But that's not the point.
extremely important to note the way they use Strasbourg and their Saudi investors as crutches in this system as well. They control multiple pieces on the chessboard. It’s disgusting how they approach it, but through sheer brute force and volume they will eventually churn through enough players to get a squad of quality - Palmer, Caicedo, etc.

Really all they have to be is correct one out of every four transfers.

They’re simply operating on a different playing field than a club like us. In fact calling them a football club at all understates what they are in reality. And sadly, having spoken to a friend in the financial industry, it seems they will ultimately win in the end.
 
He’s a 30 year old very limited defensive mid coming off a very bad season where when he did play he looked totally out of place in a possession heavy team.

He is of course a punt. Not a bad one or anything, but a punt. Loan with option to buy is almost always a punt because if we were so convinced about him we wouldn’t bother, and if Bayern could find a club willing to pay now they would.

I don’t really get why people are being so defensive about the Lenglet and Werner comparisons. He’s likely better than them but it’s exactly the same playbook
 
In fairness he was higly rated at Fulham and had some big PL clubs looking at him before he went to bayern. If we'd have signed him for 40mil last summer most of us would have been happy.

He was. I liked him. I quite like him now if he’s the same player. He has ultimately hit 30 and just had a bad injury so that isn’t a guarantee for an all action midfielder reliant totally on ball winning.

But it was absolutely a classic ENIC opportunistic signing which we wouldn’t be making if there was any sort of competition for his signature and he wasn’t loanable.
 
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