Still no club announcement!!!!
They must be having lunch first I suppose.
2pm maybe?
They must be having lunch first I suppose.
2pm maybe?
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Manager Thomas Frank
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We dropped the ball with him.
The only professional manager we had after Pochettino. Mourinho was past his prime and an absolutely delusional appoitment by Levy. Not sure how he thought that was the right choice to make back then to be honest, with all the history.
Others dont need mentioning.
And Bastoni is still only 26, would have been a good long term investment
He was also hit by the Tottenham curse. Everything that could go wrong did go wrong in that second season - the effect of the death of one of his closest assistants cannot be overstated.
Reports were he didn’t want to leave Italy though.
That's the very first goal that we conceded this season
And that's the most recent one
When I saw this against Sunderland a few days ago..
..I was reminded of this that took place in mid-October apparently
Another instance from the same day back in mid-October. Not very dissimilar to the one Semenyo scored is it?
..Also similar
Kept a clean sheet against Palace, but not without allowing chances like this
In case you think we've been ridiculously unlucky with those "belters" ,other teams also concede similar goals when they defend these shots in a similar highly conservative and lethargic manner. Two from the same game
By contrast, these from yesterday are much better; although the first one where Palhinha only tiptoes towards the attacker instead of rushing at him is still not ideal
This is not working.
And that's the most recent one
When I saw this against Sunderland a few days ago..
..I was reminded of this that took place in mid-October apparently
Another instance from the same day back in mid-October. Not very dissimilar to the one Semenyo scored is it?
..Also similar
Kept a clean sheet against Palace, but not without allowing chances like this
In case you think we've been ridiculously unlucky with those "belters" ,other teams also concede similar goals when they defend these shots in a similar highly conservative and lethargic manner. Two from the same game
By contrast, these from yesterday are much better; although the first one where Palhinha only tiptoes towards the attacker instead of rushing at him is still not ideal
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For someone who's quite risk averse with his team's passing and movement, Frank is surely taking a huge risk with these target practice shots. Players at this level will bury these at a rate high enough to cause some serious headache, as evidenced by Villa and Bournemouth games in particular where those goals were the main culprit behind the losses.This is not working.
You guys do realize Frank is staying or should I be worried? When was the last time the club has made a sustainable and logical decision?
We flogged off Johnson without having anybody lined up for him for some quick cash. A top club does this the other way around.
Like so many things it is bullshit after bullshit.
We flogged off Johnson without having anybody lined up for him for some quick cash. A top club does this the other way around.
Like so many things it is bullshit after bullshit.
This is the point for me, its by design (or lack of) - its structural far more than its the players
Which is, by no means, to absolve the players as well - they are underperforming - but I feel like they are playing with a handicap
Ossie Ardiles style though isn't it - we finished quite low because we attempting to simply outscore the opposition. That isn't setting out to try and win games - that was never done, realistically. We set out to attack expecting to win, which was the arrogance that had us still attacking when we could have been more pragmatic.
e.g 1-1 with two men down, 23 mins left to play against a bitter rival, having been unbeaten and top of the league
(MW11 - 23/24)
That was the game that I think every other PL club clocked on to and made us predictable idiots.
Spectacle for the neutral maybe, but I don't believe spurs fans walked away from the games like that happy once the reality set in. It was of course short lived, because we ended up playing like that without the attacking part later on.
Let’s stick to the facts, Johnson scored 5 goals under Season One Ange.
The year is 2076. Woolwich have won the Woolwich World Champion of Woolwich Cup for the 35th year in a row. Spurs fans are kept in pus-filled pods, their electrical energy used to power the Mikel Arteta AI Super Robot which now controls the Matrix.
But still
CJJ
continues his dogged quest to lecture Spurs fans that, actually, things were never really much better...Yeah I remember, it was unfortunate but the club should have backed him at that moment. He lashed out, it got emotional, performances were alright though all things considered. In no way is it comparable with today.
The squad just also regressed in quality and character over these past few years. It would be nice to see a few youngsters and more identification again. I can accept mid-table, not with this squad however. These are supposed to be experienced internationals.
That's the very first goal that we conceded this season
And that's the most recent one
When I saw this against Sunderland a few days ago..
..I was reminded of this that took place in mid-October apparently
Another instance from the same day back in mid-October. Not very dissimilar to the one Semenyo scored is it?
..Also similar
Kept a clean sheet against Palace, but not without allowing chances like this
In case you think we've been ridiculously unlucky with those "belters" ,other teams also concede similar goals when they defend these shots in a similar highly conservative and lethargic manner. Two from the same game
By contrast, these from yesterday are much better; although the first one where Palhinha only tiptoes towards the attacker instead of rushing at him is still not ideal
-------For someone who's quite risk averse with his team's passing and movement, Frank is surely taking a huge risk with these target practice shots. Players at this level will bury these at a rate high enough to cause some serious headache, as evidenced by Villa and Bournemouth games in particular where those goals were the main culprit behind the losses.
This is not working.
This is Ange’s back post cross.
Both situations where opponents have identified a structural weakness in the system and repeatedly exploited it.
Ossie Ardiles style though isn't it - we finished quite low because we attempting to simply outscore the opposition. That isn't setting out to try and win games - that was never done, realistically. We set out to attack expecting to win, which was the arrogance that had us still attacking when we could have been more pragmatic.
e.g 1-1 with two men down, 23 mins left to play against a bitter rival, having been unbeaten and top of the league
(MW11 - 23/24)
That was the game that I think every other PL club clocked on to and made us predictable idiots.
Spectacle for the neutral maybe, but I don't believe spurs fans walked away from the games like that happy once the reality set in. It was of course short lived, because we ended up playing like that without the attacking part later on.
I think we did set out to win games. I think that was the intent, 100%.
That we DIDNT win games is secondary.
It doesnt evidence we didnt set up to win, it evidences we werent good enough to win.
I think Ange had much the right intentions, ambitions etc.
I think Ange also was completely out of his depth and found out.
And youre right - Chelsea was a turning point Im almost certain - FOUND OUT from there on.
I dont relate Ange to Frank at all, except to make the comparison in intention, thats it.
I think theyre both out of their depth and not good enough, I certainly dont want either managing the club.
But that comparison - Ange talked a big game, goals, attacking, front foot - and he actually went for it (and failed)
Frank talked a big game - "Its a risk to not take a risk" (remember that?) - but hasnt gone for it, hes been the opposite. Negative, defensive, scared of the ball - and he has also failed.
Depends on the contract.
I think more often than not they're put on gardening leave and paid until they find another job.
......that's where the drugs are!.....
I'm so disappointed with TF it's unreal. I really liked him at Brentford and thought he would be able to up his game, spread his managerial wings, play around with the squad to get the perfect balance for each game, but I've seen virtually none of that. All I really see is almost a nervousness to fail which is, in itself, a recipe for failure. I think everyone would love to see him having a go, getting the players to have a go and trust their own talents but no , just some fairly dull football, the odd part of the odd game aside. I was always in the "give them time" camp but I just can't see a time when there will be any improvement, even when we get Dom or Kulu back. Quite looking forward to his tenure being over now to be honest and I hate that feeling.
I think if any announcement were made re: Frank, it would also require news at the same time of an interim or new appointment.
That might explain the seemingl lack of noise.
That, or carry on, we believe in you, and January signings are on their way.
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